| | | | Monday, October 26, 2009 - 08:51 Submitted by: dvik Topic: Games & Demos | | At the Alternative Party a new demo by dvik&joyrex was released. The demo ended 1st in the Alternative demo competition where it competed against demos for a variety of platforms, including C64, Atari ST, and PC. This together with all the cool demonstrations NYYRIKKI and his team provided at the party is a great success for the MSX platform.
Relevant link: dvik&joyrex website
Relevant link: Bold MSX demo at YouTube |
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| By [D-Tail] on October 26 2009, 09:52 | Wow, very impressive demo! Thanks guys 
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| By Huey on October 26 2009, 10:07 | Looking sweet. I think I saw some C64 influence 
Wasn't there a video of this (on accident) before on youtube?
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| By wolf_ on October 26 2009, 10:07 | Yep, in July.
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| By ibantxuyn on October 26 2009, 10:37 | WOW!! IMPRESSIVE!!
Congraturaltions for this nice demo! 
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| By wolf_ on October 26 2009, 14:38 | Did anything change compared to the one I saw in July?
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| By dvik on October 26 2009, 15:04 | I don't think anything big changed. This one runs on MSX2 as well. Quite interesting actually, it ran just fine on MSX1 but had huge issues with VDP outs being too fast on MSX2. So much for backward compatibility
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| By Whizzy on October 26 2009, 20:52 | I can only say... OMFG...
very , very impressive  
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| By gargamel on October 26 2009, 21:11 | Excellent work, stunning composition, a breath taker!
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| By sander on October 26 2009, 22:46 | Simply amazing!
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| By dvik on October 27 2009, 04:06 | I made a much better youtube version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKqqOcTFVm0
wolf_, can you update the link in this newspost. It would be great if someone that has access to pouet.net could update that link as well. Once both places are updated I'll delete the old version.
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| By Yukio on October 27 2009, 04:21 | Good demo ...
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| By spl on October 27 2009, 06:22 | Outstanding!!!!
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| By wolf_ on October 27 2009, 09:31 | Link changed
You know, everytime I see the Bold logo, the erase-wipe of that logo, and those stars, I feel I've seen them before.
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| By dvik on October 27 2009, 15:23 | Quote:
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You know, everytime I see the Bold logo, the erase-wipe of that logo, and those stars, I feel I've seen them before.
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Hmm, I think the bold logo may have been inspired by the logo of a group that made some quite nice games for MSX, i can't remember the name, but I think its infinite or something
The stars, both the gfx and routine is directly taken from Lotus F3 actually.
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| By Huey on October 27 2009, 15:30 | I love the big bouncing balls. Must take a lot of CPU to calculate them 
Alternative Demo Competition
* First place: 2000 € cash + a Nokia N900
* Second place: 700 € cash
* Third placce: 300 € cash
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| By dvik on October 27 2009, 16:14 | Quote:
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Actually it does. They are all calculated in the demo itself. There is a background task that starts just after the roulette wheel is copied to VRAM. So they are actually not pre calculated on a PC or anything, all done on the MSX itself
The demo actually implements a little mini-os, with background tasks that can be scheduled and queued up, and interrupt tasks that can be scheduled.
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| By wolf_ on October 27 2009, 16:39 | I wonder whether a new MSX demo-challenge would be worthwhile in these MSX years. Something like: "64KB ROM, MSX1, 64KB RAM, PSG, 3.58Mhz". I see three dark clouds hanging tho:- dvik&joyrex being the only ones to submit an entry, because making demos like that is not very widespread anymore.
- others not submitting an entry because they know dvik&joyrex are probably in for the first place anyhow
- people yelling they'd love to compete with an MSX2 entry and some more specs..
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| By dvik on October 27 2009, 16:57 | There are certainly plenty of people capable of doing great MSX demos, question is I guess if they want and have time. I was quite surprised though of the quality of the demo competition at the MSX Info Update party. NYYRIKKI didn't really advertise much about it but there were a couple of really good entries: http://pouet.net/party.php?which=1471&when=2008 so perhaps it could work. Last MRC demo compo was in 2004 or something, right?
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| By hap on October 27 2009, 16:59 | I don't see that happening, 10 years ago maybe. Hold F11 to reverse time.
The most realistic choice is what dvik&joyrex have done: compete in one of the mixed-platform demoparties.
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| By wolf_ on October 27 2009, 17:04 | 'Bounce', yea. It was also pre-PopularMSXdevYears, so people were less busy with games 'n things. Apart from groups like dvik&joyrex, Traktor and such, I've not the feeling there's an awful lot happening regarding demos.
At the same time I feel that the traditional scroll 'n logo genre is a thing of the past, and those few demos that do get released on MSX are more and more becoming like newskool, as seen on plenty other systems. That is, imho, a good development.
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| By Huey on October 27 2009, 18:05 | Quote:
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I see one more:
- Dvik and joyrex just won 2000 euros in a multiple platform competition. No use to compete with that with an MSX only competition.
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| By Yukio on October 27 2009, 19:37 | In this case ... congratulations for the nice prize!
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| By Latok on October 27 2009, 20:34 | This demo is even better than a caramel Sundae Ice Cream!!
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| By Ivan on October 27 2009, 20:44 | Thanks for demos like this one!
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| By poke-1,170 on October 28 2009, 02:12 | daymn ! job well done guys !
very nice tune as well ^^
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| By yzi on October 29 2009, 09:16 | This is a great demo! I especially like the flow of things - no more stopping to load the next part, and the parts are tied together. And the music is great too. Since we can't have "track loaders" on MSX (because AFAIK the floppy drive timings are different for each manufacturer/model so disk IO must rely on BIOS), everything must fit in one executable, and so precalcs must be done inside the MSX itself.
I'm sure we'll see more MSX1 demo scene productions in 2010. Hopefully also something from Lieves!Tuore...
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| By doraemonppc on October 29 2009, 17:16 | Awesome production!
Please, keep in this way
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| By killimolli on October 30 2009, 07:52 | Awesome!
Now, we need co-op msx1 or msx2 demo by dvik&joyrex+Bore^Traktor and sdw^Noice.
Its my wet dream..."one demo to rule them all"
-killimolli
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| By bore on October 30 2009, 09:54 | Not likely to happen and you forgot the rest of the Traktor members and the nice guys from Tulou.
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