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RyJuZo
msx freak
Posts: 235
Posted: July 10 2009, 22:41   
Quote:


Not sure if I'll buy a cartridge of your game, I'll probably will...



no need to buy...Knightmare III-Raziëls revenge will be totally free !!! I'm entering it in the 2nd ed. of the Passion Msx compo..but ONLY if more people compete against me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote:


Can you please distribute (or sell for a fair price) those development tools you just described?
I can sign a NDA to beta test them.



The programs dont need anymore testing I'm afraid...they've proven themselves while making the game !

As for selling I dont know yet what I'm going to do...yet...might sell but dont know what to ask for them cause it's pretty impressive software (even if I say so myself ) and took alot of time to create !

I'll have to think some more about it...I'll let you know..when I know..

muffie
msx addict
Posts: 442
Posted: July 10 2009, 23:02   
Well, that's the way I find correct for new software for old/hobbyst platforms: Give the .ROM for free, but try to sell a collector's edition in cartridge with box/manual and etc... Well, where all here collecting stuff right?
That's what I did with Knight Lore. I tested the free digital version and bought the cart from Pazos. Everyone happy and no one trying to make money out of a plain .ROM file.

Your development programs run on windows/Linux/osx?

GIVE THEM TO ME NOW!!!!
RyJuZo
msx freak
Posts: 235
Posted: July 11 2009, 00:48   
Quote:

@RyJuZo: I think you constantly have to defend yourself because people haven't seen anything yet! Isn't possible to make a small (promotional) movie of your new game and put it on Youtube??

Then everyone can see what (great) game you are working on!?!?!?!



Just learned there will be a fair in a couple of months....If I have time I will attend and show it off...

nothing better than a live show..right
evulopah
msx addict
Posts: 494
Posted: July 11 2009, 09:18   
D*mn right it is !!
boblet
msx lover
Posts: 69
Posted: July 11 2009, 14:26   
but but.. people at the fair will see your game, and take pictures, and put them on the internet, and the NDA police will come and kill them in their sleep. OH MY GOD.
MäSäXi
msx professional
Posts: 851
Posted: July 11 2009, 20:01   
You´d better inform your NDA police as soon as possible, Ryjuzo, every MSX victim is too much!
RyJuZo
msx freak
Posts: 235
Posted: July 11 2009, 22:12   
Quote:

You´d better inform your NDA police as soon as possible, Ryjuzo, every MSX victim is too much!



ok I'll have to REPEAT myself even though I hate it but this is what I said:


6) All selected canidates will be asked to sign a non-disclosure agreement if a game will be released commercially.


So NDA does not apply to KNIII as it will not be released commercially !!!!

So you can take as many pictures as you want....but ofcourse I will not show the entire game just enough....otherwise my competitors will know how hard they will have to work in order to BEAT me .....hahahaha
Sonic_aka_T

msx guru
Posts: 2345
Posted: July 11 2009, 23:51   
Well, sorry to say this, but I just BEAT you!!! My imaginary game is twice as good as yours!
Sonic_aka_T

msx guru
Posts: 2345
Posted: July 11 2009, 23:52   
Oh, crap, this got me thinking, I sure hope nobody comes up with an imaginary game that's thrice as good...
RyJuZo
msx freak
Posts: 235
Posted: July 12 2009, 10:27   
Quote:

Oh, crap, this got me thinking, I sure hope nobody comes up with an imaginary game that's thrice as good...



I must be slow or something...but I dont get the joke
Sonic_aka_T

msx guru
Posts: 2345
Posted: July 12 2009, 11:00   
All I'm saying is that every developer has had the coolest ideas, only to realize later they didn't have the time, skill or MHz'es to realize it... What people are trying to tell you here is; stop hyping and start coding. Once you have a nice proof of concept, be kind enough to share it with the rest of the scene, which is usually the point where you can expect some nice feedback/input/help. Just don't expect people to get excited at the mere fact that you're saying you're working on the best game ever. We've all been there, and we all know that these types of projects are very difficult to finish. I've had games which are like 90% done stall completely, which is why most of us try to keep things hush hush until the game is actually ready to be released. Before you draw up contracts for beta testers, try showing them you actually have something for them to test... Having said that, I should prolly STFU and continue working on Randar III; another fine example of how opening my big fat mouth got me into trouble...
RyJuZo
msx freak
Posts: 235
Posted: July 12 2009, 15:36   
Quote:

All I'm saying is that every developer has had the coolest ideas, only to realize later they didn't have the time, skill or MHz'es to realize it... What people are trying to tell you here is; stop hyping and start coding. Once you have a nice proof of concept, be kind enough to share it with the rest of the scene, which is usually the point where you can expect some nice feedback/input/help. Just don't expect people to get excited at the mere fact that you're saying you're working on the best game ever. We've all been there, and we all know that these types of projects are very difficult to finish. I've had games which are like 90% done stall completely, which is why most of us try to keep things hush hush until the game is actually ready to be released. Before you draw up contracts for beta testers, try showing them you actually have something for them to test... Having said that, I should prolly STFU and continue working on Randar III; another fine example of how opening my big fat mouth got me into trouble...



oeps I'm sorry have we met before??? as you seemed to think you know me well enough to call me a LIAR !
or it's the other thing...called Jealousy??
I dont know what the deal is but I'd appreciate it if you tried to treat me with some respect as you do others in this community until you might have reason NOT to which you yet do not !
Just because you seem to be a WANNABE does not mean everyone else is just because they CAN do what you CAN NOT !
Hope to see you FACE-TO-FACE a the upcoming fair in Bussum where I will LAUGH in YOUR face when you see it with you own EYES !!

SaebaMSX
msx addict
Posts: 408
Posted: July 12 2009, 15:59   
When is Bussum? October?
DemonSeed
msx master
Posts: 1395
Posted: July 12 2009, 16:07   
Hey RyJuZo, I know that Sonic_aka_T can perfectly stand up for himself and so can you, but I have to say this:

On the Bussum fair last year (IIRC), I personally was lucky enough to see your work with my own eyes and so I know that you speak the truth and are not just "blowing hot air".
Anyway, maybe you should realize that most of us didn't have that privilege (yet).
You know, in the past, the MSX scene saw a lot of people come to pass with great plans; hypes were created around those plans but eventually those projects never saw the light of day.
This is why people don't get enthousiastic that easily anymore.
'We', as a scene, naturally got a bit sceptical and cynical about 'big plans', so in the most mild cases they will think "first see, then believe".

I'm sure people are very willing to believe that you got what it takes to make your projects a success, but, for those who haven't seen your tools in action, there is simply no other 'evidence' to 100% believe what you're doing, other than some screenshots, but mainly: simply taking your word for it.
I think Sonic refers to that, and I'm positive that he is not calling you a "liar".

...so, you know what to do: bring your stuff to the fair and blow the nonbelievers away!
Sonic_aka_T

msx guru
Posts: 2345
Posted: July 12 2009, 16:11   
Quote:

oeps I'm sorry have we met before??? as you seemed to think you know me well enough to call me a LIAR !
or it's the other thing...called Jealousy??
I dont know what the deal is but I'd appreciate it if you tried to treat me with some respect as you do others in this community until you might have reason NOT to which you yet do not !
Just because you seem to be a WANNABE does not mean everyone else is just because they CAN do what you CAN NOT !
Hope to see you FACE-TO-FACE a the upcoming fair in Bussum where I will LAUGH in YOUR face when you see it with you own EYES !!

Dude, are you for real? Seriously... Get a grip...
 
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