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| GuyveR800 msx guru Posts: 3048 | Posted: August 29 2003, 23:26   | There's only one thing I can say about their reaction: LOL
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 msx legend Posts: 4991 | Posted: August 30 2003, 00:07   | I'd like to start with a similar reaction as Guyver's : ROFL!!!
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| There are many things to clear up about the way how emulationsoftware may be published on a cd or on the internet.
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Are there? Quote:
| One thing is sure, though. You can't put the emulator and systemroms of the games on the same cdrom.
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No, indeed. That makes a big difference. If I steal a DVD player and 40 DVD's from someone I'm not in trouble, just as long as I keep the DVDs in another room than the DVD player itself. Besides, the emulators on CD-ROM A are fully functional. I can easily boot into MSX-BASIC. Microsoft Copyrighted. Wow. Quote:
| And without this software the roms are simply not readable
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Indeed, it's very hard to find an emulator yourself these days. The games itself are still copyrighted. Quote:
| On the retrogaming-cd we choose abandonware, demos and shareware.
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Konami Metal Gear, Konami Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake??? What were you thinking?. Those titles should've at least rang a bell Quote:
| Because it's about old games, we, in case of doubt, checked well respected sites like Classic Games and Funet, a site where msx.org also has a link to.
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.www.isonews.com is a respected website as well. Besides, if they'd read our policies or a bit more of the contents of our website they would've found out we're in no way responsible for the content of sites we link to, nor do we condone warez-ing. Especially not in a large-commercial scale. Quote:
| To make things very clear, we also put a firm disclaimer on the cdrom interface'.
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I'll look that one up later. Will be in for a laugh or two  | | BiFi msx guru Posts: 3142 | Posted: August 30 2003, 09:29   | Quote:
| >>One thing is sure, though. You can't put the emulator and systemroms of the games on the same cdrom.<<
No, indeed. That makes a big difference. If I steal a DVD player and 40 DVD's from someone I'm not in trouble, just as long as I keep the DVDs in another room than the DVD player itself. Besides, the emulators on CD-ROM A are fully functional. I can easily boot into MSX-BASIC. Microsoft Copyrighted. Wow.
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Strike three, you're out, PC Magazine! Let's make all these files on the CD's bloatware then?
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| >>And without this software the roms are simply not readable<<
Indeed, it's very hard to find an emulator yourself these days. The games itself are still copyrighted.
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They charge money for the emulators (since they're on the CD of which you have to pay). Anyone with access to the internet can simply download them. Snout, does that CD by any chance have fMSX 2.x on it as well?
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| >>On the retrogaming-cd we choose abandonware, demos and shareware.<<
Konami Metal Gear, Konami Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake??? What were you thinking?. Those titles should've at least rang a bell
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Nah... "because it's old means we can put it on the CD as well" must have been their illogical explanation with that 'abandonware' statement. And indeed they should have heard huge bells ringing with these titles since these titles have been referred to in a title of 2 years ago, or is that considered abandonware as well already? Or they've stood too close to them huge ringing bells, they're deaf (or at least fake-deaf) by now.
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| >>Because it's about old games, we, in case of doubt, checked well respected sites like Classic Games and Funet, a site where msx.org also has a link to.<<
.www.isonews.com is a respected website as well. Besides, if they'd read our policies or a bit more of the contents of our website they would've found out we're in no way responsible for the content of sites we link to, nor do we condone warez-ing. Especially not in a large-commercial scale.
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As a Dutch expression clearly will state in this case: "They clearly haven't checked further than their own nose length" or in this case, our front page and our links database. And as I posted earlier, they should have checked with the copyright holders.
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| >>To make things very clear, we also put a firm disclaimer on the cdrom interface'.<<
I'll look that one up later. Will be in for a laugh or two 
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Please quote that disclaimer in here, we're really in for more fun of what their opinion is regarding copyrights... And to put it in their own words, it's published somewhere so we're free to use the complete text, right?
Let's hope they read the forums to check at least this thread with their next visit and hope they're mature enough to react on it as well. | | Latok msx master Posts: 1722 | Posted: July 05 2005, 09:38   | | | BiFi msx guru Posts: 3142 | Posted: July 05 2005, 12:50   | ROFLMFAO!
And of course their subscribers will wait for the correct version to arrive...
Is this really the same magazine as the earlier one in this thread? It must be hard for them to listen... I can recall (heck, I said in this thread on this very sub-page) saying they're probably be fake-deaf by now because of those Metal Gear titles ringing a bell...
Maybe someone should write it down for them... Oh wait, that was already done... right here even!
btw... I think we're still waiting for a reaction of them in this thread, or maybe they're just too scared?  | | snout
 msx legend Posts: 4991 | Posted: July 05 2005, 12:59   | some people never learn, do they?  | | BiFi msx guru Posts: 3142 | Posted: July 05 2005, 16:03   | They apparently never visited here during that time either...  | |
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