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Sony Hit Bit 75P, any trackers?

Taajuus
msx friend
Posts: 2
Posted: August 23 2003, 22:06   
Hi

I've had this computer for a long time but haven't used it for at least 6 years. I just hooked it up again and now I'm interested on the sound chip. What kind of sound is it capable to produce? Are there any trackers for my MSX? If any trackers exist, how can I get them?

I don't really know a lot about this computer, I only used it for games when I was young. But nowdays I'm really interested on music and it would be interesting to test out this computer.

Any help is appreciated!

Thank you

-taajuus



snout

msx legend
Posts: 4991
Posted: August 23 2003, 22:29   
Most MSX music trackers that are available are developed for MSX2 computer systems using hardware sound-extensions like the FM-PAC (MSX Music), SCC, Muziekmodule (MSX Audio) or Moonsound (OPL4).

The default sound chip in every MSX is the PSG which is a 3 channel sound, 1 channel noise sound generator with a very characteristic 'square wave' sound (although sharper sounds can be made with it as well the PSG is known for these 'fat' sounds).

If I'm not mistaken PSG-Tracker created by Flying Bytes (heck, I was in that team. I should know these things) works on MSX1 computers. It's a true tracker for the PSG soundchip (surprising, eh, given the title of the program ). And I think the Japanese MML-based musiccomposer ''MuSiCa' will work on MSX1 as well, but I could already be terribly wrong on that one.

It takes some time and efforts before you're able to create cool sounding songs with just the PSG in PSG Tracker. If you have the chance of getting an MSX2 with one of the other, abovementioned sound-extensions consider using

Moonblaster 1.4 - Ideal tracker if you want to be able to create songs in a simple way. The moonblaster replayer is quite fast which makes Moonblaster songs suitable for use in games/demos etc. Soundchips supported: MSX-MUSIC and MSX-AUDIO. In stereo. Limitation: the MSX-MUSIC and MSX-AUDIO channels are linked to each other so you can't play something entirely different on both chips. For each channel you can set 'MUSIC', 'AUDIO' or 'BOTH'. Depending of the mode the MSX-MUSIC is in it can play 9 channels of music and no drums or 6 channels of music and drums. Ohyeah, there are PSG drums in MB too

MuSiCa - I recently started using this program for TVSP (see elsewhere in the forums). At first I thought... WHY THE HELL ARE ALL THOSE JAPANESE COPING WITH MML??? But.. after a while, I learned the power and flexibility MML is capable of giving you. MuSiCa supports the PSG, SCC and MSX-MUSIC and channels are not linked to each other. I can now safely say I can create songs in MuSiCa about as fast as in Moonblaster and I must the result of MuSiCa songs mostly sound better. Other benefits? SPEED and MEMORY USAGE. You can 'optimize' your own song while you're writing it which makes it use less memory.

MODeditor - well, this one only works if you have a legendary Panasonic turboR computer but it's great to play around with samples a bit on the MSX

Moonblaster Wave: If you obtained a MoonSound you just GOT to get this one. It's Moonblaster, yet ... even better. Somehow I never liked the FM version of this tracker, despite the fact that OPL4 FM sounds are REALLY sweet.

Meridian: If you own an OPL4, but haven't downloaded Meridian yet you can just as well sell your OPL4 to someone else. This tracker is AMAZING. It enables you to play Standard MIDI files on your MSX. In cool quality. It allows you to create songs combining both the WAVE and FM sections of the OPL4 into programs, with all the flexibility you want. You can even save your creations as MIDI files. Downside: this one needs quite some memory to actually work. There is no external replayer yet and there are still doubts if an external replayer will be fast enough to allow running useful background 'tasks' (game/demo) without losing all details. However, people are already thinking on smart solutions to this one.

Other trackers like Protracker, Koustracker, Anma's MusicRED, Xelasoft SME 3.xx all have their benefits and downsides, but somehow never truly satisfied me as a user of those programs

ah well, since you own an MSX1 I already gave you a lot more information than you asked for
GuyveR800
msx guru
Posts: 3048
Posted: August 23 2003, 23:42   
Quote:

The default sound chip in every MSX is the PSG


hehe, the default ^^; (that would mean if the soundchip is omitted, there's a PSG automatically )

Anyway, there are more chips called a PSG, the model used in MSX is a General Instruments AY-3-8910 or compatible (like Yamaha YM2149).

Also check out this thread suggesting using CPC, Spectrum or Atari ST trackers for PSG music creation.
Taajuus
msx friend
Posts: 2
Posted: August 24 2003, 13:20   
Thank you so much for your replies.

Hmh, lets say, I'm interested on this PSG-Tracker by Flying Bytes and I'd like to try it out. How can I get this program and how can I transfer it into my msx?
ro
msx guru
Posts: 2329
Posted: August 24 2003, 14:38   
don't forget ORACLE which also support PSG (and no chanel linking either. completely free to set up your envi. 32 channels max.) works NOT on msx1 though....
 
 







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