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| Is the PSP what a new MSX should be like?
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wolf_ online
 msx legend Posts: 4781 | Posted: May 12 2004, 18:36   |
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Wouldn't be the first time for me to skip a night in order to make a deadline  |
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GuyveR800 msx guru Posts: 3048 | Posted: May 12 2004, 19:23   |
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| Mice are not evil RSI makers. People are. If you take a break once in a while, make sure you're sitting in the right position, your desk is at the right height, your arms are horizontally with your desk and your're looking straight at the top of your monitor when holding your head straight, then you can safely use your mouse. Abuse leads to physical complaints.
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Yeah, but really, how much fun is it if you have to be conscious about such things all the time?!  |
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Latok msx master Posts: 1734 | Posted: May 12 2004, 19:44   |
I'm using computers for more than 20 years now. I've sat in every strange position possible behind a computer screen, I've been using a mouse for more than a decade. At my work, I work with a PC 8 hours a day, when I get home, I add another 3 hours behind the computer  and I never ever experienced things like RSI. Guess I'm lucky. And indeed, I don't think about it at all and I'm certainly not going to. |
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DarQ msx professional Posts: 839 | Posted: May 12 2004, 20:06   |
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| Mice are not evil RSI makers. People are. If you take a break once in a while, make sure you're sitting in the right position, your desk is at the right height, your arms are horizontally with your desk and your're looking straight at the top of your monitor when holding your head straight, then you can safely use your mouse. Abuse leads to physical complaints.
Oh and, on topic, this machine is way too much a game machine. A 'new' MSX should be what MSX has always been: a machine on which you can be creative. So it should at least have a keyboard and it must be fairly easy to develop things for.
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ahum, at work i sit straight. my arms rest on the desk. i have had lessons in "ergonomic (english word??) using of computers" and i obey it. But it really is the goddamn mouse that hurts those tiny muscles in my hand and arm.
on topic: i agree with you here  i would like to see a new gamemachine and thre MUST MUST MUST be a keyboard indeed! and not a tiny (cellphone size) keyboard that wastes my little muscles but a kingsize keyboard where i can slam on.
Oh, and it obviously needs the [SELECT], and [GRAPH] keys  furthermore, i wouldnt like to see PC keyboard like cursors. where there are 3 on a row. dont like it
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during my MSX times (without mouse) i sat in the most weirdest positions, but never had any pain. i slowly progressed when i started using mice
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more ontopic after reading legacy's post...
but then it aint portable anymore. i would be nice, but i prefer a good machine above portabillity. how about a portable version and a "desktop" version. |
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[D-Tail] online
 msx guru Posts: 3020 | Posted: May 12 2004, 20:55   |
I'd say this would do nicely as an optional MSX. You know, you have the real thing at home, where you can work on and do things like typewriting (TED, yay!  ), and the PSP-sized one for during train trips. Can you at least play 'The Fairlyland Story', on the road! (Damn, that game didn't came through during the previous megapoll... Ah well, can't have it all, I guess  ) |
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[D-Tail] online
 msx guru Posts: 3020 | Posted: May 12 2004, 20:57   |
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| Oh, and it obviously needs the [SELECT], and [GRAPH] keys  furthermore, i wouldnt like to see PC keyboard like cursors. where there are 3 on a row. dont like it
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Yeah! You rule, DarQ. After all, slammin' on a keyboard isn't a sin  It's most likely the cheapest part of the entire machine.
[D-'Pops mouse from its port and throws it around in his mess'-Tail]  |
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DarQ msx professional Posts: 839 | Posted: May 13 2004, 15:46   |
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snout. i noticed it just now. i still see an edit button below my post. when clicking on it i get the message that i created it more than 30min ago, duh. but why is that edit button there in the firstplace. it looks so useless and unprofessional (but i shouldnt say that huh?!).
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GuyveR800 msx guru Posts: 3048 | Posted: May 13 2004, 16:43   |
Back to topic, I think the Nintendo DS looks more like what a new MSX would look like. Only then with the bottom screen replaced by a keyboard 
Internally too, it has an ARM7 and an ARM9 CPU and 2D+3D graphics.
PSP's MIPS processor is no fun at all to program. |
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Latok msx master Posts: 1734 | Posted: May 13 2004, 21:05   |
Do you think professional developers like to program for CPU's which have something 'attractive'? Do professional programmers also look back at old CPU's with a certain nostalgia? In other words, do current professional programmers love the Z80 or the 6502?  |
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GuyveR800 msx guru Posts: 3048 | Posted: May 13 2004, 21:19   |
You're comparing the PSP with what the new MSX should be like.
The new MSX should be fun to program, in assembly or higher languages like C or BASIC.
I don't understand what 'professional' programmers have to do with this, as they generally program in C. But ofcourse, the easier a CPU is to program, the easier it is to write optimized assembly routines for it, which even 'professional' programmers still have to do sometimes.
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Sonic_aka_T
 msx guru Posts: 2269 | Posted: May 13 2004, 22:19   |
Which is why our new MSX will have a 28MHz R800  |
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Sonic_aka_T
 msx guru Posts: 2269 | Posted: May 13 2004, 22:21   |
That would be like what... a 110MHz Z80 equivalent?
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GuyveR800 msx guru Posts: 3048 | Posted: May 14 2004, 00:02   |
more like 150MHz  |
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IC msx professional Posts: 538 | Posted: May 14 2004, 00:29   |
if a 3.5MHz R800 ~ 28 Mhz Z80 then 28Mhz R800 ~ 224 Mhz Z80.
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3domsx msx friend Posts: 3 | Posted: May 14 2004, 01:46   |
I think the msx 3 should havelooked like an oversized fz-1 3do real multiplayer with two floppy drives, a hard drive a keyboard and mouse port and two joystick ports. 3do will build the msx and it will have daisy chainable controllers up to eight players.
btw, is sony combined the PSP and the Vaio Picture Book into one unit, that will be nice!
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