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Gee... how are you all on business level?
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I know that I'm still the type of new bee, but there is one thing I don't understand.
Why is it people can't separate business from personal points of view.
All the forums here, except from the social talk forum, are business related.
Aka, you don't get on a personal level when you feel respond on a topic.

This is not about being a sad looser or not. Some people see provoking as a personal attack. And when it's getting personal, then it can hit you big time.

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Personally I hope Guyer will reconsider. I don't know if he was banned, and if, for what reason. Personally I don't care.
Yeah, you can ‘diss’ a person as long as the person you’re responding to knows that you don’t mean a ‘rats ass’ with the comment. It can give a discussion some colour. , but then the discussion will change from its original topic.
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Please bare in mind that this is a public forum, where we all are a business card for the rest of the MSX scene.

-Q

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Please bare in mind that this is a public forum, where we all are a business card for the rest of the MSX scene.

Heh, I hope Nishi doesn't read this then

You get my point

-Q

It's just lame some people do it on quite regular basis... and always take one single person.

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I had to take it at school when I was a kid and I still regret people not coming to my aid back then. Even the people working there said I was to return the favour. It's just not my style.
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GuyveR800 already listed a few remarks by some people that were addressed to him which IMHO are way below the belt and I think it's a miracle they still survived.

I have yet to see a public forum where people do *not* get flamed once in a while, and I'm sure MSX Association knows that too.

I agree with BiFi, some remarks aimed at GuyveR800 are below the belt. He's an easy target, he's got an opinion about everything AND expresses that opinion. That doesn't mean you have to agree with it, as long as you deal with it in the appropriate way. That being said, I don't always approve of the way GuyveR800 deals with reactions, but I can understand why he does it.

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eduardo robsy (pitpan), you are a manipulative bastard! You can't fight fair, so you pull out all the dirty tricks in the book, and put on a nice face for the general public. You're a despicable person and a liar. May the gods strike you dead!

Doh, Patriek is such a dork

Eduardo is a cool guy, MSXDEV'2k3 and 2k4 is a very cool initiative.

Words don't hurt (well they do hurt dorks...), guns do.

If you can't stand criticism, go buy some candy or something...

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I can't believe this hypocrisy! pitpan wrote: "Man: I miss the time when you were banned from MSX.ORG. It was so calm that I got used to easily." pitpan wrote: "FYSOB" (Fuck You Son Of a Bitch) DarQ wrote: "only thing that helps against patriek is a nice decent BAN!" eduardo robsy (pitpan), you are a manipulative bastard! You can't fight fair, so you pull out all the dirty tricks in the book, and put on a nice face for the general public. You're a despicable person and a liar. May the gods strike you dead! Mark Jelsma (DarQ), you're just too pathetic for words... Maybe you'll grow up some day. Screw you guys, I'm going home!

oh my, now you're after me again huh.
well patriek, BiFi said :"Do onto others you want them do onto you..."

i will grow up for sure. but when you behave bad, i sometimes feel obligated to place a nasty remark. it has nothing to do with growing up, i has everything to do with the fact that certain people just don't seem to be able to tolerate your behaviour.

for what rests, it really is a pity (for the community i mean) that mr. i-know-all-about-msx won't be answering questions at msx.org (NO this is not sarcasm)

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Eduardo is a cool guy, MSXDEV'2k3 and 2k4 is a very cool initiative.

It's worth wondering if pitpan isn't jealous about the MRC Challenges doing way better than those by reacting on each MSX1 entry to beg to enter his contest as well.

No, MRC challenge isn't as interesting and MSXDEV competition. MSXDEV is aiming at fully implemented MSX-1 games. MRC challenge accepts everything, including some half-assed basic "demos".

I am learning MSX programming specificly to be able to participate in next MSXDEV

And I will support it with some prize material as well.

IMO MRC encourages MSX development better than MSXdev does. That's why everything is accepted. It't just not full programs, but even seperate graphics and music were accepted for the challenge as long as it meets both the required topic and deadline.

MSXdev restricts to MSX1 development only and entries are to be submitted in ROM image format. Nothing wrong with that, but every MSX1 challenge that meets the MSXdev requirements is immediately reacted to by pitpan almost begging to enter MSXdev.

If that's the only way for him to get enough contestants he's simply jealous IMO.

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@dhau & BiFi
can i make a decent conclusion that there is plenty of room for both contests?

- Game Over -
- Insert Coin to Play Again -

&HC9

Please, lets not make this thread an MRC Challenge vs. MSXDEV thread, as there is no rivalry between the two. Both competitions can perfectly coexist next to each other and share the same goals: to increase the activity of MSX Developers. We take a different approach, that's all.

I can only agree with you guys... I just wanted to make a statement. Still wondering if anyone got it though.

I do not want to continue with this, but as other people said before, I think that there is enough space for both events.

MSXdev is focused on game development and wants to boost the MSX1 scene, that hasn't been very active in the last years. It responds to this objective, nothing more, nothing less.

The only problem with MSXdev is me. Let me explain this: I was coding a game and some other people asked me to stop its development. They exposed their reasons and they didn't convince me, so I continued developing that game. As they were disapointed, thing that of course I can undestand, they quitted from MSXdev. Some other factors didn't help it too.

But my intention is to continue with MSXdev competitions, because I think that they are a good chance to produce new games and insuflate some life to the good and old MSX system.

I don't know if you care about it, but Karoshi Corp (that's it, Jon Cortázar and me), considered to join the Underwater challenge. In fact, Jon has got some astonishing artwork ready to go, but we were (and we still are) too busy preparing our MSXdev entries and other MSX projects.

About truth and lies, I won't admit to be pointed as a liar by somebody with such an history like this one: http://www.msxnet.org/gtinter/hcapoloe.htm

I know that some other people do think that MSXdev is a good initiative. I am only interested in its success because I think that the MSX1 scene has been completely forgotten for years. For me, it would be easier just to program my own games and publish them, but I pursue more ambitious objectives.

Kind regards to everybody.

Edward Robsy

P.S: One last detail: I suggested to the author of KOBASHI to enter MSXdev with that game because it fitted directly the rules. It was his decision and my suggestion. If you have a look at the MSXdev status page, http://www.robsy.net/status04.htm you will notice that all the contestants are, at the moment, from Spain. And they didn't know about MSXdev in MSX.ORG but in HispaMSX page and mailing list.