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another way of interpreting MSX ;)

IC
msx professional
Posts: 538
Posted: July 12 2004, 03:02   
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSX

And I quote: 'Machines with Software eXchangeability'
GuyveR800
msx guru
Posts: 3048
Posted: July 12 2004, 18:46   
Euh.. that is the official way!
Nishi said so

Ofcourse, in the past Nishi claimed MSX to mean several things, but this one is the latest and greatest

That's the beauty of MSX, really... It means anything to everyone.

For Bill Gates, it meant 'MicroSoft eXtended', to make him feel better.
To Matsushita and Sony it meant "Matsushita Sony X', with the X standing for all the other manufacturers.

What does MSX mean to you? (Actually this would be a great advertising slogan )
Arjan
msx addict
Posts: 466
Posted: July 12 2004, 20:40   
where have you been all this time, IC?!?
tfh
msx addict
Posts: 493
Posted: July 13 2004, 20:11   
Quote:

Euh.. that is the official way!
Nishi said so

Euh.. So what Nishi tells us is "the truth"?
snout

msx legend
Posts: 4991
Posted: July 14 2004, 13:26   
Euhm, I don't think we should take everything Nishi says for granted, but I do think he deserves some credit on this one. Despite the fact he isn't as famous as Bill Gates and Steve Jobs (well, in Japan he is) he is quite an industry big-shot you know. And without him there would not have been MSX in the first place. However, we had this discussion many many many times before and I don't think we are ever going to agree on this one
tfh
msx addict
Posts: 493
Posted: July 14 2004, 15:24   
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Euhm, I don't think we should take everything Nishi says for granted, but I do think he deserves some credit on this one. Despite the fact he isn't as famous as Bill Gates and Steve Jobs (well, in Japan he is) he is quite an industry big-shot you know. And without him there would not have been MSX in the first place. However, we had this discussion many many many times before and I don't think we are ever going to agree on this one


Nah.. I wasn't refering to "what MSX stands for", we all have our own oppions about that Just the: "Nishi said so" part
snout

msx legend
Posts: 4991
Posted: July 14 2004, 17:17   
Well, like it or not. When Nishi says something about the history of MSX I'm more likely to believe it than when you say it, simple because, well... he was there!
GuyveR800
msx guru
Posts: 3048
Posted: July 14 2004, 17:55   
Whether you like it or not, tfh, Nishi invented MSX and he (thru MSX Association) has all rights to it. That makes his word law, it's that simple!

If tomorrow he says MSX stands for Mass Stupidity eXperiment, that's simply how it is.

Fact is, MSX is just a cool three letter combination, it was never meant to mean anything.

Your maniacal urge to reply to any and every post about this matter with this attitude is truly sad. You are a grown man, aren't you?
snout

msx legend
Posts: 4991
Posted: July 14 2004, 18:59   
IC, you might want to catch up on things, reading this article It's a lecture Nishi held in Tilburg 2001 (pics of that fair and lecture over here!)

Oh, and there's this poll too!
konamiman
msx freak
Posts: 132
Posted: July 14 2004, 20:24   
In spanish there is another more meaning: "Maquinita Super eXtraña" (super strange little machine) X-D
tfh
msx addict
Posts: 493
Posted: July 14 2004, 23:24   
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Whether you like it or not, tfh, Nishi invented MSX and he (thru MSX Association) has all rights to it. That makes his word law, it's that simple!

If tomorrow he says MSX stands for Mass Stupidity eXperiment, that's simply how it is.

Fact is, MSX is just a cool three letter combination, it was never meant to mean anything.

Your maniacal urge to reply to any and every post about this matter with this attitude is truly sad. You are a grown man, aren't you?


Your maniacal urge to reply in a way that you have to insult people is truly sad. You are a grown man, aren't you?

As for me: People that keep on changing their stories, aren't the persons I would believe straight away. The fact that you do, well... You draw your own conclusions. You are very good at drawing conclusions on too little information anyway, so.. please go ahead

Maybe you should also give this some though: Why oh why getting personal again? Why is this always the case for you? Having some personality problems which you reflect on the outside world? {moderator: out of bounds}

C'mon... Try to learn NOT to play at the person. It's really not that hard!
GuyveR800
msx guru
Posts: 3048
Posted: July 15 2004, 00:13   
Quote:

Your maniacal urge to reply in a way that you have to insult people is truly sad.


You must be looking for insults with a microscope!

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You are a grown man, aren't you?


Actually my length and shoesize increased in the past year, so I'm not too sure of that.

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As for me: People that keep on changing their stories, aren't the persons I would believe straight away. The fact that you do, well...


1. Nishi never claimed MSX already meant 'Machines with Software eXchangeability' in 1983. So there is nothing to believe or disbelieve there.
2. I never claimed to believe Nishi.
3. You obviously haven't read well. See notes 1 & 2.

What Nishi HAS claimed (and which I presented as a fact in my previous post) is that MSX is just a cool three letter combination, and that the meanings of the letters came later. I must say, yes, I do believe that. Why? Because it's common and typical japanese.

It's like MacroMedia saying MX doesn't mean anything, other than it's the name of their line of products.

So you might see that as changing stories, but what Nishi actually did was tell different people different meanings. Brilliant marketing!

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You draw your own conclusions. You are very good at drawing conclusions on too little information anyway, so.. please go ahead


I don't know to which conclusions and what information you refer to, but it's very simple: You don't know what kind of information I have access to!
So what you've just done here is draw a conclusion based on too little information. Hmmm...

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C'mon... Try to learn NOT to play at the person. It's really not that hard!


It seems it's hard for you to follow that rule, as your reply was very explicitly insulting, and was moderated because of that.

tfh
msx addict
Posts: 493
Posted: July 15 2004, 08:08   
Well,
I must admit my reaction was "a little bit" overdone But I thought I would just give you a piece of your own way of treating people.
But I guess I already know what's wrong with you.. You don't know the difference between normal use of language and insulting people. That's OK, I guess you can't help it ..

Anyway, I will behave a bit nicer and not go as far as in my previous message
ro
msx guru
Posts: 2329
Posted: July 15 2004, 08:11   
funny, again it's G who get's it.... I don't get it!

Like the man said "let's not get our feeling in the way" and post like gents (refering to another thread here)

Wasn't there another thread about the meaning of them 3 letters "MSX" (we love so dearly) ? Or whaz that a poll, hmm.. can't remember. Funny website by the way IC.
GuyveR800
msx guru
Posts: 3048
Posted: July 15 2004, 13:00   
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funny, again it's G who get's it.... I don't get it!


What I don't get is why a lot of ppl judge me on the <1% aggressive posts I made and try to interpret everything I say as an attack.

You yourself are guilty of that too, as in a particular recent newspost thread you were yelling "fight, fight, fight!" where there was none, at least not from my side.

Anyway, let's not have this discussion in two threads at the same time

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Wasn't there another thread about the meaning of them 3 letters "MSX" (we love so dearly) ? Or whaz that a poll, hmm.. can't remember.


It comes up relatively often, but the last time you might probably remember is on comp.sys.msx, where BTW tfh posted similar things.

 
 







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