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With the One Chip MSX1 announced and Bazix taking the MSX Revival worldwide, the MSX Revival will...

Latok
msx master
Posts: 1734
Posted: November 13 2004, 23:22   
Indeed welcome .......And I share your concern. I want a standard and being able to flash the core doesn't really help, I think......But snout thinks otherwise, for example. And many with him Fortunately!
snout

msx legend
Posts: 4992
Posted: November 15 2004, 00:01   
AFAIK it's possible to connect both a TV and a VGA screen, as the prototype has separate SVHS/VGA connectors. Thanks for the compliments about msx.org btw ^_^
IC
msx professional
Posts: 538
Posted: November 15 2004, 01:36   
ok.. here's my thought..
Quote:


- What makes you think the MSX Revival will become a (huge) success?


Depends on what goal lies a ahead.. Bringing it to the big public.. I don't think so (think apple).. But bringing a big stream trough the MSX community.. think it's quite successfull cauz everyone in the MSX community is talking about it...

Quote:


- What makes you think "this is it", when it comes to the MSX Revival?


I think there's more on the horizon... MSX is a simple standard and can go ahead with todays technoligy.. so to say 'this is it'.. Yah.. for the moment.. But more is possible.

Quote:


- What makes you think the MSX Community will suffer from the MSX revival?



I don't think the MSX community will suffer from the MSX revival.. In stead, I think the opposite will happen

Quote:

Bring it on!



There you go
Algorythms
msx freak
Posts: 175
Posted: November 15 2004, 15:07   
I don`t think it will be successful if it`s only presented ONLY as a computer. I think it would be smart to integrate it in DVD-players, Satelite decoders, PDA`s, Internet boxes and even TV`s... Wouldn`t it be cool to pack a DVD with MSX games and play on your DVD player? A lot of these devices has games and programs integrated, but to have a standard for this (namely the MSX "multimedia" standard) would be a nice trick to get MSX back.
wolf_

msx legend
Posts: 4779
Posted: November 15 2004, 15:36   
Well, that's a point yeah .. however, don't you think the major domestic electronica manufacturors would rather licence something like a PS2 or xbox orso? Or if it must be something retro, than a system that survived a little longer than the msx?

However, MSX in domestic stuff is cool ofcourse I just try to look through the eyes of the Philipses, Sonys, JVCs, Panasonics of this world ... (and yes, all made MSX'es once )
Algorythms
msx freak
Posts: 175
Posted: November 15 2004, 21:34   
I agree ofcourse, but I still think it`s doable. If you look at the games already in such devices, they are almost always old games remade, and in resolutions and specs that the MSX 2 would cope with. And if they were to implement a gfx9000 orso it could cope with even better stuff And there IS a satelite decoder with an MSX emulator built in already! And I bet ASCII still has allot of connections with the old MSX firms, and maybe there`s even a couple of MSX enthusiasts left in some of them. Even text-tv could use a new interface which the MSX could cope with. Well, I`m rambling...
xonox
msx friend
Posts: 4
Posted: November 17 2004, 02:06   
It's me again, the newbie

I translated all the one chip msx articles i could find. Seems they target a price around 100$us (10000 yen). They talk of already having msx 2 + fm sound working on the one chip msx. They also talk of removing some connectors, which i hope doesn't happen as the specs are nearly perfect right now. Can't wait to see which kind of case they'll come up with.
Sonic_aka_T

msx guru
Posts: 2269
Posted: November 17 2004, 13:40   
Oh dear, I hope they don't remove my VGA and TV connectors tho... And USB is kinda handy to have too.... Hmm... ponder, ponder...
[D-Tail]

msx guru
Posts: 3020
Posted: November 17 2004, 13:45   
Let's remove the joystick ports! I only need a keyboard

And eh... A joypad to play Lost World. :|

Hmm... ponder, ponder...
Latok
msx master
Posts: 1734
Posted: November 17 2004, 13:48   
Ethernet, please.......
snout

msx legend
Posts: 4992
Posted: November 17 2004, 13:52   
Although onboard ethernet would be coul it's not an absolute necessity to me. One can always use an ObsoNet cartridge, right?
Sonic_aka_T

msx guru
Posts: 2269
Posted: November 17 2004, 16:59   
"The internet is gonna be a big flop anyway..." ^_^
arnold_m
msx lover
Posts: 85
Posted: November 17 2004, 17:44   
IC wrote
Quote:


I don't think the MSX community will suffer from the MSX revival.. In stead, I think the opposite will happen


What makes you think the MSX revival will suffer from the MSX community?
xonox
msx friend
Posts: 4
Posted: November 17 2004, 18:33   
I just found out on the Altera website that you can update the core of the FPGA using an USB cable, i think usb will stay. They seem to mention that the cartridge slots will support add-ons so my guess it's that the obsonet cart should work. I hope they don't reduce the cart slots to just one. Oh well, time will tell.

Seems they want to release it in spring 2005, some articles mentionned march.

In case anyone have doubts the MSX can relive, you should read up on the neogeo game system, which remained alive without any sort of upgrade for like 13 years. They just stopped making new games for it. A new king of fighters could sell in the dozens of thousands units for the home system (i think it could be twice that but i have no hard numbers so i'm relying on my memory).

[D-Tail]

msx guru
Posts: 3020
Posted: November 17 2004, 19:22   
Quote:

What makes you think the MSX revival will suffer from the MSX community?

Well, he said the opposite would happen, now didn't he
 
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