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MSX turboR diskdrive problem

Latok
msx master
Posts: 1720
Posted: January 25 2005, 21:47   
For quite some time now, my turboR GT diskdrive doesn't really work the way it should be.

It seems like it especially has problems writing disks at certain sectors. It also seems to have troubles reading certain sectors. For example, my original Moonblaster diskette and the saturday bought Lost World Moonsound simply don't work. They seem to hang right after the boot. Is that when the Sunrise logo is being loaded? Sector 0? Anyway, the diskdrive starts making a high noise and simply can't read (&write) things......Other diskettes seem to work just fine....

Question: Is this the common belt problem? Or something much worse? Do you guyz have any clue? Thx!
robertwilting
msx addict
Posts: 296
Posted: January 25 2005, 21:52   
Sounds a lot like the problems I had befor the drive went completely death.
Still haven't checked if replacing the belt would do the trick.
Since most people think it was the belt in that case. (However it doesn't look that bad.)
Hmm well guess I will try to get hold of a new belt and try to fix it after the tests from some courses.

HansO
msx addict
Posts: 375
Posted: January 25 2005, 21:54   
Is the belt never changed? Thats the first obvious to try.

Latok
msx master
Posts: 1720
Posted: January 25 2005, 21:57   
No, I never changed the belt. But strange thing is, some diskettes seem to work just fine, while others hang immediately. Those disks DO work in my other MSX set, though. So it isn't the diskette.

Anyway, what if it's NOT a belt problem. Can the diskdrive still be fixed? And if not, can I still find a diskdrive that will work in my GT?
W76NearDark
msx addict
Posts: 329
Posted: January 25 2005, 22:16   
Yes, repairbas still has the right belts. Check his website: www.bas-ditta.info.
Sonic_aka_T

msx guru
Posts: 2261
Posted: January 26 2005, 02:04   
Quote:

Those disks DO work in my other MSX set, though. So it isn't the diskette.

Even if the disks do work on other computers it can still be the disk. Some older disks tend to get stuck and require more force to revolve. This is no problem for your other MSX drive, but for your GT drive with its weakered belt it's just too much... Either that or it's something else

Quote:

Anyway, what if it's NOT a belt problem. Can the diskdrive still be fixed? And if not, can I still find a diskdrive that will work in my GT?

If it's not the belt it'll prolly be a little more difficult to fix, and you might consider fitting an older PC drive. If you can find a DD drive, great! If not, pretty much any drive will do. Look for some info on the web, you'll see there which drives are best...
Latok
msx master
Posts: 1720
Posted: January 26 2005, 09:03   
Thank you all. Sonic, I thought building in a PC drive in a turboR was kinda difficult, considering the turboR diskcontroller or something?
HansO
msx addict
Posts: 375
Posted: January 26 2005, 09:50   
A PC drive is very doable. I have done it, Sonic has done it.

A lot of work though since you need to wire a new cable. And modify the PC drive so that it generates the right signals (DRIVE READY on Pin 34). And neatly do the mechanical adaptation.

But first the belt! Thats something not requiring soldering skills. And from your descriptions of the symptoms it has a high probality of success: some floppies do not work, some do. And some floppies just require some more power to rotate, which a wornout belt cant deliver.
Sonic_aka_T

msx guru
Posts: 2261
Posted: January 26 2005, 14:32   
Quote:

Thank you all. Sonic, I thought building in a PC drive in a turboR was kinda difficult, considering the turboR diskcontroller or something?

Nah, it's not that difficult... and fortunately you don't need to touch the FDC. It's a matter of removing the old connector and soldering a flatcable in its place. It just takes a little time, took me about 3 hours to do it neatly. Try the belt first tho, like Hans said... It's just 5 euros and it is indeed the most likely culprit. You can always 'worry' about installing a PC drive later...
Latok
msx master
Posts: 1720
Posted: January 26 2005, 14:34   
Cheers again
Latok
msx master
Posts: 1720
Posted: January 26 2005, 14:35   
Uhm, not that I cheer again, but cheers in the meaning of......thx
Latok
msx master
Posts: 1720
Posted: January 29 2005, 22:30   
But now I really cheer again!!!!!! My problem is solved. At least, this problem

Bas Kornalijnslijper got me a new rubber belt which I replaced just a few hours ago and guess what?! It works like a charm again! This is gonna boost my MSX experience
Repair-Bas
msx addict
Posts: 380
Posted: January 30 2005, 11:43   
We have to drink a beer on it.

So you solved the problem so easy and not far from your house.

Lets things make easy!!!

Sense and simplicity
jalu
msx lover
Posts: 124
Posted: January 30 2005, 14:35   
Quote:



Sense and simplicity



Hehe, where did I hear this before?


POISONIC
msx professional
Posts: 883
Posted: February 05 2005, 02:05   
well Latok im glad A belt would do the trick

In my case 6 months ago i had to replace my disk drive for a new one
after a big operation of soldering of 2 hours it worked.

www.funet.fi/pub/msx/mirrors/hanso/hwdoityourself/turbordrive.pdf


 
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