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Sousuke
msx freak
Posts: 154
Posted: February 24 2005, 16:39   
Totally sick duuuude
DarQ
msx professional
Posts: 836
Posted: February 24 2005, 17:04   
@manuel:
ok, but how about using turbo-r emulation? most characters will go wrong because of its weird keymap.
manuel
msx guru
Posts: 3299
Posted: February 24 2005, 17:30   
DarQ: yes, use the IPS patch to let it have a European keyboard when openMSX 0.5.1 comes out

Of course we should fix this once for real.
[D-Tail]

msx guru
Posts: 2948
Posted: February 24 2005, 18:58   
Looking for: Japanese PC-keyboards!


Edwin
msx professional
Posts: 587
Posted: February 24 2005, 19:50   
For the few that are not aware of the C variant (which started in 1984) of this contest, the website (www.ioccc.org) of the IOCCC contains a lot of inspiring code. It's C, but that doesn't mean some of the concepts can't be applied to MSX Basic.
NYYRIKKI
msx master
Posts: 1474
Posted: February 25 2005, 15:55   
Usually first program to write on any language is "Hello World"... Here is my version for MSX-BASIC

1 DEFSTRO:O="Obkkh'Phukc&":POKE-189,&HEE:KA=KA+1TOLEN(O):XCHR$(ASC(MID$(O,A,-NOTE))XOR7);:J:Q-&O275,201


poke-1,170
msx professional
Posts: 847
Posted: February 25 2005, 19:30   
did I tell you're all scary?

NYYRIKKI
msx master
Posts: 1474
Posted: February 25 2005, 21:25   

I must agree, that I have currently exceeded a bit even my own expectations of writing MSX-BASIC all wrong!

... but scary? Heck, this is not even close to scary yet! Other fraction of my mind is currently working with entry, that is capable of expanding it's command set, self modifying and progressive evolveing. I hope, it will finish it's job next week.

At first stage the code will start expanding the BASIC command set to be able to take over the development, then it will start adding and deleting parts of it's source untill it gains the final basic stucture. After that it starts to modify and run it self in a loop without clear preprogrammed pattern, so after this point you will not be able to know when it was started or how many generations it has "lived".

The current version has already tools to modify it self and basic understanding of it's structure, at the moment it anyway has also pretty bad self destruction habits, that slow down the development. Anyway, back to the topic... I think, that when it is released, it might be a bit scary.


snout

msx legend
Posts: 4991
Posted: February 25 2005, 21:32   
Should I consider the 'hello world' code to be the 4th entry?
manuel
msx guru
Posts: 3299
Posted: February 25 2005, 21:35   
NYYRIKKI: you rule...

_o_
NYYRIKKI
msx master
Posts: 1474
Posted: February 25 2005, 21:57   
Snout:

I think yes... I was trying to show that even a very short program can be totally unreadable.

BTW If you like, I don't mind at all, if you make this MRC offical competition. If we give people for example this year to make their programs, I think, that no one is privileged. I started same time I suggested this idea and I think, that this can be great fun. The point is, that you can participate with very little effort! If you like, you can also exclude my entrys from the offical results as I made the rules.


poke-1,170
msx professional
Posts: 847
Posted: February 25 2005, 22:02   
hehehe it seems like a lot of fun though comepletely undecipherable code and seemingly puposeless programs... one day,when AI is advanced enough,it will swap all existing programs one by one into these scary little programs...

STARTING IN FINLAND !!!!
poke-1,170
msx professional
Posts: 847
Posted: February 26 2005, 03:35   
basically Nyyrikki you have no idea what you're doing... the future of the world is in your hands and you're playing with it as if it's a cheap toy !
PERKELE !!!
NYYRIKKI
msx master
Posts: 1474
Posted: February 26 2005, 10:16   

There is escape sequence, that should be impossible for the program to take over, but even if that fails, you always have power switch, so don't worry about world domination

Quote:

PERKELE !!!



Yup, the same guy, seen my mail address?

AuroraMSX

msx master
Posts: 1216
Posted: February 28 2005, 10:33   
Quote:

don't worry about world domination



Why do I suddenly feel this urge to (re)play Day of the Tentacle?

 
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