The most amazing part :

" Users will not be able to load existing MS-DOS applications programs directly into MSX-DOS machines. Microsoft is planning to adapt a number of their applications programs to run in the MSX-DOS environment-, however. "

Ehmmm ... where are the Microsoft applications for MSX ????

blast from the past

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MSX is Designed for Low-End Computer Markets The MSX specification was first introduced by Microsoft in June. It provides a standard hardware and software specification for low-end 8-bit microcomputers that ....

Hmmzzz.. And what did the letters "MSX" stand for??? Microsoft only did the BASIC and DOS for MSX? Right...

Dream on with your "Machines with Software eXchangability", etc ...
Still fun to see how a small group of old MSX-fans, can create a nice piece of "geschiedsvervalsing"...
Ah well, wishfull thinking...

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Still fun to see how a small group of old MSX-fans, can create a nice piece of "geschiedsvervalsing"...

I'm not an uber-Dutch, so I guess the fine point of your joke escapes me utterly. As of the source of information, I asked a fellow who works as Microsoft sales rep to scan their intranet for anything that's MSX-related and safe to release

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Quote: Still fun to see how a small group of old MSX-fans, can create a nice piece of "geschiedsvervalsing"... I'm not an uber-Dutch, so I guess the fine point of your joke escapes me utterly. As of the source of information, I asked a fellow who works as Microsoft sales rep to scan their intranet for anything that's MSX-related and safe to release

Geschiedsvervalsing -> History rewriting ....
Kay Nishi is quite in good in it.

Microsoft was the copyright owner of MSX in the 80ties. Microsoft in Japan (Nishi) put it all together with the hardware manufacturers, the Basic came from Bill Gates people, the BIOS and MSX idea came from Hongkong based Spectravideo. When the egos of Nishi and Bill had the to be expected collision Microsoft Japan became ASCII. And MSX never made it to the USA ....

I don't want to sound too anal, but actually it's "geschiedvervalsing", so no s. And a more literal translation would be "forgery of history", so it's not just rewriting history, but rewriting it with the intention to introduce falsehoods. Whether Nishi's novel explanation of the meaning of the MSX abbreviation is done out of spite or to set the record straight is anyone's guess.

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Ehmmm ... where are the Microsoft applications for MSX ????

Be Happy that we have no unreliable ms apps.

Hmm, so, everyone believes the story of M$ and not the story of Nishi?

I wonder what Mr. Yamashita did then?

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Be Happy that we have no unreliable ms apps.

You say MSX-BASIC isn't unreliable?

• HansO already mentioned in one of his MCWF newsletter articles about a bug in the digitizer command COPY SCREEN I found resulting in a change of use.
• Also I mentioned in one of the MCWF booklets about a bug resulting in a crash when you request a touchpad value from a port where a mouse is connected.

To name a few. I'm sure there are more.

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You say MSX-BASIC isn't unreliable?

At least not that much as the win's

BiFi:

Being compared to other Basic implementations back in 80's, and I saw some of them, I would say MSX-BASIC is almost perfect.

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At least not that much as the win's

True... It did take them over 20 years to get a somewhat stable windows...

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Hmm, so, everyone believes the story of M$ and not the story of Nishi? I wonder what Mr. Yamashita did then?

It is Microsoft and not M$, just as you like to named Manuel and not Manual
Funny, before 1980 the name was MicroSoft! I have some manuals from these days of Basic for the 6502 with this company name. MicroSoft short is MS and he, MS-DOS name make sense knowing that.

Nishi around 1980 = a Microsoft employee developing and selling Microsoft copyrighted products and Microsoft licenses like MSX (and yes, then it was already a profitable commercial company with a profit target as companies should to pay their stockholders and employees)

Nishi later = ASCII leader (and yes, ASCII was then already a sometimes profitable company but not as profitable as Microsoft and not so much loved by the stockholders therefore)

Nishi now is post-ASCII and still running a company called MSX Association, with a profit unknown to me.

I used the term history rewriting on purpose because Nishi is telling his version of the truth as he sees it now in retrospect. He told the stories in his Microsoft days in a bit different way I guess, but dont we all after such a long time? Nishi is not a fraud doing forgery, he is a capable business man with technical insights enough to tell the right often marketing driven stories to achieve his company and private goals.

In the first years of MSX marketing the message send to the press was MicroSoft eXtended Basic. And that made good sense because it is the most extended Basic made by Microsoft. Now Nishi has another explanation for the acronym and why not? Maybe both are/were true sometimes, for us and/or for Nishi. Marketing guys love these kind of games!

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The most amazing part : " Users will not be able to load existing MS-DOS applications programs directly into MSX-DOS machines. Microsoft is planning to adapt a number of their applications programs to run in the MSX-DOS environment-, however. " Ehmmm ... where are the Microsoft applications for MSX ????

To name a few:
- M80, L80 assembler linker
- Multiplan spreadsheet
- and other CP/M products made by Microsoft run fine on MSX-DOS.

Microsoft had a healthy CP/M business before MS-DOS appeared.