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Gorgane
msx user
Posts: 57
Posted: August 28 2005, 19:21   
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Nice fotosession.
Who is the owner of these russian Yamaha MSX1 and MSX2 machines I saw in the following files ?
Both of them have network module that looks similar, but you cannot transfer data between them because they are very different - the only similarity is casing and plugs.

msxparty1/MVC-027F.JPG
msxparty1/MVC-028F.JPG



I can't remember his name. He is not originally from Finland, speaks English and works for F-Secure. Saku/Stt would probably know. He also had a cable that enabled him to load MSX programs from a portable CD-player through the cassette port. The cable is on the net somewhere, but can't remember the address. He said that he still didn't have the Russian teachers machine that controls the whole network.

The Bingo MSX is really something that comes along once in a lifetime. I will probably never sell or trade it away.

The Bingo program is a VERY shitty basic program with a few parts written in machine code. Lots of completely useless lines and garbage code that doesn't do anything. When we saw the code we tried to think that on what kind of medication the programmer was on when he wrote this. We dumped the ROM, but couldn't get it working properly. We realized that there is some special hardware, maybe S-RAM, inside the module and so the program will only run partially from the dumped ROM. We don't really know what this special hardware is as opening the module would require some heavy violence and nobody wants to do that when there is only one known to excist.

There will be a full article with text and pictures+the ROM on www.pelikonepeijoonit.net later, i will let you know when it's done.


Gorgane
msx user
Posts: 57
Posted: August 28 2005, 20:57   
The page has been done, that was fast!

http://www.pelikonepeijoonit.net/articles/bingomsx.html

There ROM is not available there yet, don't know if it will be. It's pretty useless anyway as it won't run properly or at all.
mars2000you
msx master
Posts: 1723
Posted: August 28 2005, 21:24   
Gorgane, I'm one of the blueMSX co-developers. You can contact me if you want that I make some tests with this rom.
mars2000you
msx master
Posts: 1723
Posted: August 28 2005, 21:36   
By the way, the format of this cartridge looks like .... the Music Module.

So, the extra-hardware could be MSX-AUDIO with his extra RAM.
Gorgane
msx user
Posts: 57
Posted: August 28 2005, 21:37   
I don't have the ROM myself, it was dumped by a fellow Finnish MSX collector and he is currently the only who has it, i think. It will be available at some time, but can't be sure when. I couldn't get one myself as i don't have a working disk drive or Sunrise IDE/Flash for my MSX2.
mars2000you
msx master
Posts: 1723
Posted: August 28 2005, 21:41   
Well, we'll wait ... but it should be funny to emulate this rare thing !
manuel
msx guru
Posts: 3368
Posted: August 28 2005, 21:45   
No, it doesn't look like Music MOdule. MM is much bigger. It looks like the other Micro Techology cartridges like MT-Base.
and there is no reason why there would be a sound chip in a bingo cart!

Anyway, the "Holland" on it is not because of the VG 8020 (as the page suggests), but most likely just because of the "HOlland BIngo" company name, an originally DUtch company.
manuel
msx guru
Posts: 3368
Posted: August 28 2005, 21:47   
I think SRAM is indeed a likely candidate though, it would also explain the weight if this SRAM is battery powered.
NYYRIKKI
online
msx master
Posts: 1500
Posted: August 29 2005, 14:45   

Alexey Podrezov was the one with Yamaha MSX computers. He had just made new version of Caslink.

Bingo machine ROMs are still in my compact flash card and that card is still in party place. Stt has a copy as well.

I also think, that the MT-cartridge has S-RAM. There was something connected to I/O port #30. Lot more info, pictures etc. will follow when I get all the stuff away from the party place. It keeps my hands full at the moment.


cax

msx professional
Posts: 1009
Posted: August 29 2005, 14:57   
Finland + russian MSX = Alexey Podrezov, that was simple.
So, now we have at least 3 cassette utils - Caslink, WAVeR and MicroWAVer, each of them keeps evolving.
The only thing I miss is Yamaha MSX2 network emulation that will make possible connecting emulated MSX on PC with real MSX via msx-link device, designed by tnt23.

BTW, sorry for the offtopic.
Algorythms
msx freak
Posts: 175
Posted: August 29 2005, 16:57   
Nice page! But the Norwegian word TREKK does not mean PRESS, it means something like PULL. I guess it generates another new random number.
Gorgane
msx user
Posts: 57
Posted: August 29 2005, 19:13   
Quote:

Nice page! But the Norwegian word TREKK does not mean PRESS, it means something like PULL. I guess it generates another new random number.



That's exactly what it does. This is just a great machine, it's a real shame that i have to keep it in a closet because i don't have any space for it. It should be on display mounted on a wall or something.
NYYRIKKI
online
msx master
Posts: 1500
Posted: September 03 2005, 15:31   
More pictures of this Bingo-MSX can be found from MSX Info update 2005 homepage.

http://msx.partys.at.endofinternet.org

mars2000you
msx master
Posts: 1723
Posted: September 03 2005, 16:28   
Nice page ... and what a giant collection of MSX hardware / software in Finland !
 
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