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| ASCII Solutions has decided NOT to produce the One Chip MSX computer
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ditman
msx novice
Posts: 24 |  Posted: August 31 2005, 03:06 |
I've just got this guys....
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| Dear ditman,
Much to our regret we have to inform you that ASCII Solutions has decided not to produce the One Chip MSX computer. Unfortunately, the amount of pre-orders required for the device to be produced (5,000) was not reached. In accordance with the pre-order agreement, we hereby cancel your pre-order of a One Chip MSX computer.
At this moment MSX Association, the Japanese organization Bazix represents outside the Japanese borders, is investigating the possibilities of producing the One Chip MSX with a different partner, whilst considering to make a few alterations to the One Chip MSX design. If a decision has been made on this matter, we will inform you personally by e-mail.
Finally we would like to thank you for placing your pre-order and the trust you've put in the One Chip MSX computer. We would appreciate it if you would share your thoughts on the future of the One Chip MSX computer with us by sending an email to info@bazix.nl.
With regards,
Bart Schouten
Rieks Warendorp Torringa
Sander Zuidema
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legacy
msx professional
Posts: 516 | Posted: August 31 2005, 10:37 |
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snout
msx legend
Posts: 4992 | Posted: August 31 2005, 11:26 |
Please do keep in mind that the project has not been dropped. As you can read in the e-mail MSXA are investigating the possibilities of producing the One Chip MSX with a different partner, whilst considering to make a few alterations to the One Chip MSX design. Things have certainly not become easier, but not impossible either. Lets wait and see what future announcements on the matter have to say.
As for opinions on the OCM: feel free to mail then to info@bazix.nl or post them here. Although Bazix nor MSXA can guarantee your suggestions will be implemented, they will most certainly be heard. |
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Samor
msx professional
Posts: 846 | Posted: August 31 2005, 11:26 |
...and a whole community supporting the MSX, but hey, that's not important.
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Bastiaan
msx lover
Posts: 68 | Posted: August 31 2005, 11:53 |
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| As for opinions on the OCM: feel free to mail then to info@bazix.nl or post them here. Although Bazix nor MSXA can guarantee your suggestions will be implemented, they will most certainly be heard.
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What is the main reason that 3200 pieces isn't enough to get into production? Is it the PCB, investment needed for the casing, or ??
Does anyone know the background of the 5000 pieces needed for production? (or why 3200 isn't enough?)
As a designer/engineer of mass-production consumer products I know a product might become economically possible again by taking a step back and making other choices in production techniques... |
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legacy
msx professional
Posts: 516 | Posted: August 31 2005, 12:25 |
@ snout.
I know that the project isn't dropped, and I don't give up the hope.
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ARTRAG
msx master
Posts: 1751 | Posted: August 31 2005, 13:27 |
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| ...whilst considering to make a few alterations to the One Chip MSX design.
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If they do not propose MSX2 at least, we will NEVER see a new MSX again.
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POISONIC
msx professional
Posts: 883 | Posted: August 31 2005, 13:45 |
wel let them make a 1chipMSXturboR  a 1chturbo r would sell good..... |
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wolf_
msx legend
Posts: 4781 | Posted: August 31 2005, 13:57 |
*if* it fits on the proposed fpga-unit or for the same price.. otherwise we end up with a more expensive fpga chip.. everything has a pricetag..
As with modern PC's, there might be some value in a strong videochip and a normal CPU rather than a strong CPU and a slower videochip..
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Leo
msx freak
Posts: 238 | Posted: August 31 2005, 14:46 |
I beleive that they need 5000 orders to get a discount on the fpga...
The 200 euros price including port was quite cheap , maybe they should have
proposed an MSX2 with OCM for 250 euros and a lower number pre order required...
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[D-Tail]
msx guru
Posts: 3020 | Posted: August 31 2005, 18:46 |
Tilburg 2K1 -- Nishi proposed a single-chip, $100 MSX. Strange thing is, when there's price namings involved, they always tend to rise. $100 is about €80-€90 orso, and the price of the OCM was high already. I can imagine ASCII/MSXA sticking to what their chairman (well, for this project) had claimed, and wanted to get as close to that $100 as they possibly could. Can't blame them though. Can blame ASCII for not putting that little bit more effort on the line. Hell, they could've expanded the OCM-preorder period to December 31st!
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Latok
msx master
Posts: 1734 | Posted: August 31 2005, 19:25 |
D-Tail, the Nishi-proposed 100$ single-chip has nothing to do with the One Chip MSX that we're currently trying to get produced.
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[D-Tail]
msx guru
Posts: 3020 | Posted: August 31 2005, 21:08 |
I know about his project @ MIT, but the One Chip MSX was intended to be a cheap piece of machinery as well. Check Nishi's Q&A from Tilburg 2K1. Bottom question on that page. Probably a typo -- Quote:
| Q: What will be the price of the one chip MSX?
A: From 15/20$ to 10$
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Which I think should be from $15/$20 to $100. But in any case, el cheapo.
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Think I misinterpreted your reply, Latok, but in any case and as far as I understand, the OCM setup was initiated by Nishi. Related to his lecture in 2001, he mentioned some of its feats, including the target price.
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Ivan
msx professional
Posts: 908 | Posted: August 31 2005, 21:18 |
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| If the last effort of MSX Association still fails than MSX will die a slow death.
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I agree. The worst of all is that OCM is a really good idea; instead of a new MSX built upon a non-modifiable architecture (which probably is, like Z380, or will be obsolete) you get a customizable MSX to "play with". It can't be more in accordance with MSX philosophy!
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| ...and a whole community supporting the MSX, but hey, that's not important.
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Yes, but that's not enough for me, I'm a nonconformist  |
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Latok
msx master
Posts: 1734 | Posted: August 31 2005, 21:32 |
D-Tail, I just believe Nishi doesn't give a fuck about the ESE One Chip MSX and it certainly isn't the device he has been thinking and talking about for more than 5 years now. I agree, the 2 projects running next to eachother are a bit confusing, to say the least.
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