Actually, the OCM is quite a lot related to the plans Nishi released in Tilburg 2001. It's a 'step in between'. Of course, in more than 4 years time, the plans have changed quite a bit. It wouldn't be a good thing if they hadn't. If you want to have an idea of how the plans currently are, please have a read at the Nishi's 2005 lecture, which clearly shows where the OCM stands.

Well the one chip msx is exactly the MSX ESE project , it has just been renamed .
The pcb looks exactly the same.
I believe the ocm chip msx was initially not an fpga+ board but a dedicated IC
that contains all the MSX for, potentially, 20$ in high volume.

As you know... ESE MSX has beed updated

http://www.msx.org/ESE-MSX-System-3.newspost3233.html

Yours,

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Well the one chip msx is exactly the MSX ESE project , it has just been renamed . The pcb looks exactly the same. I believe the ocm chip msx was initially not an fpga+ board but a dedicated IC that contains all the MSX for, potentially, 20$ in high volume.

Makes me kinda wonder...

*the OCM is not really made by msxa/ascii
*MSX Player is just a ported fMSX

I almost get the idea they don't want to, or simply can't develop something themselves...

I read this off the MSX association website via Babelfish

New! 2005.08.29
"1 tip/chip MSX" (the tentative name) in regard to merchandising the news

From the corporation ASCII way as for 1 tip/chip MSX where sale was examined, reaching up to the necessary reservation quantity, from the ASCII way we decided sale in not being done.

In the MSX association it continues and it starts doing the conference of affiliated each company concerning merchandising 1 tip/chip MSX.
So far in the one which reservation it receives, for a while make wait it means to do, but concerning merchandising in order to be able to obtain the good result, so far it starts be sure to endeavor above.

Furthermore, so far mainly with the ASCII way you collected opinion in regard to regarding 1 tip/chip MSX demand,, but we have accepted even in the MSX association. For opinion we wait of everyone demand.

dont be so suprised ESE-Artists Invented the 1 chip yes i mentioned it before ascii even planned to produce 1 ch msxés in 2001......

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Well the one chip msx is exactly the MSX ESE project , it has just been renamed . The pcb looks exactly the same. I believe the ocm chip msx was initially not an fpga+ board but a dedicated IC that contains all the MSX for, potentially, 20$ in high volume.

Ehh hey if you dont believe the 1chmsx wasnt FPGA what do you think it is then????

I said it , a dedicated IC...

The first time I heard about ocm it sounded to me rather a dedicated IC and not an FPGA.
On a dedicated IC(=asic) u can have DACs for video/audio which are not in the fpga (so fpga is not really one chip although all digital part are much more integrated than old pcb's) and the die size is smaller then it is
cheaper. But it is justifyied only for high volumes.

I got this email from ESE. It is nice that they recognise MRC! does anyone know a company??

Hello David,

ESE Artists' Factory is developping one chip MSX system.
ASCII gave up mass-production of the one chip MSX (as you know).
Some MSX freaks and MSX association are seeking a company for production.
(If you know a good company, write a mail to MSX association !!)

Keep checking the MSX association homepage.
(Or "MSX resourse center" is good alternative.)

regards,
-------------------------
Kazuhiro TSUJIKAWA



----- Original Message -----
From: "david haslett"
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Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 2:07 AM
Subject: ESE One chip MSX



>> Hello
>>
>> I am not sure if you understand English, will ESE be producing a one
>> chip MSX ? at what cost ?
>>
>> I know that ASCII have decided not too.
>>
>> Thank You
>>
>> David

Personally, I think the effort should be directed in changing the OCM into an OC*. While adding a few more MSX systems may increase the market a bit, I don't see it suddenly go sky high. The way to go with this type of device is probably modularity. Create a base module with only the basic FPGA needs and a few connectors. Then create some extension boards to add outputs and inputs. This means that adding a different input board could open up a whole new market (like the NES option that was discussed here already, but I assume there are a few more out there). I think that the added number of potential buyers would outweigh the bit of extra complexity by far. Plus everybody would get a more versatile toy as well.

An FOSC Fpga Open Source Computer

Well, I don't think OC* will actually work... There are some really machine specific connectors required: what about the MSX Cartridge ports, for instance? They don't make sense when making a OCAmiga system or something alike... The hardware design is system specific, if you ask me...

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Well, I don't think OC* will actually work... There are some really machine specific connectors required: what about the MSX Cartridge ports, for instance? They don't make sense when making a OCAmiga system or something alike... The hardware design is system specific, if you ask me...

I think you missed my point. The hardware difference is exactly what it addresses by being modular.

well if it has flat cable connectors on the pcb you can make your own special adapters...

OK, that's fair enough, I can live with that

As long as a new MSX will be made!