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| SymbOS MSX multitasking operating system - help needed!
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Prodatron
msx master
Posts: 1088 |  Posted: June 26 2006, 02:13 |
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| Since practical things will limit the maximum supported ram to one or two MB, is it possible to use the rest to implement something like a disk cache? Don't know if it would really benefit performance much compared to IDE drives. Maybe it could be useful for other system purposes as well.
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It would only make sense for speeding up floppy discs. Copying data from ram or from IDE has more or less the same speed, so it wouldn't help here. Maybe the additional ram could be used for other things, but I don't know yet. |
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wolf_
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msx legend
Posts: 4663 | Posted: June 26 2006, 02:21 |
Music was made with MBWave, that's 24 wave channels, with 512k RAM tones and a handful of ROM tones (piano, crash, in Sphere... no ROM tones in Wings).
The visual format is quite easy, all-in. The actual video is, dunno, like 400kb orso? Rest is DOS(2), music, code etc. In total there're little over 1000 frames we play in a specific order, while changing the palette. It's really simple ^_^. The technical hooplah is not the trivial part, what really matters is: "can you make a video with a 64x48 resolution, 4 colors, and prolly not too many frames?"
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k0ga
msx user
Posts: 52 | Posted: June 26 2006, 09:59 |
Anyone know something of Trebmit? I ask him some days ago about new release of SymStudio, but I haven't some reply from him.
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Trebmint
msx addict
Posts: 262 | Posted: June 26 2006, 19:22 |
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| Anyone know something of Trebmit? I ask him some days ago about new release of SymStudio, but I haven't some reply from him.
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I'm still around, just unfortunately very busy for the next few weeks, though I am doing the odd hour or two on symstudio. Is there something in particular or is it just full release you want? Currently in still trying to get both symbasic, and the text editor up to scratch and at that point I will release a further version. Plus unlike Prodatron I'm mortal and take time to code  |
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k0ga
msx user
Posts: 52 | Posted: June 27 2006, 15:32 |
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| Anyone know something of Trebmit? I ask him some days ago about new release of SymStudio, but I haven't some reply from him.
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I'm still around, just unfortunately very busy for the next few weeks, though I am doing the odd hour or two on symstudio. Is there something in particular or is it just full release you want? Currently in still trying to get both symbasic, and the text editor up to scratch and at that point I will release a further version. Plus unlike Prodatron I'm mortal and take time to code
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It's only to request last release, I would like begin to do some test of symbos codding. |
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Prodatron
msx master
Posts: 1088 | Posted: June 27 2006, 19:59 |
Right now I recognized, that I didn't post the link of the new SymStudio version, which TrebMint sent me more than a week ago.
Sorry, here it is:
http://www.symbos.de/files/symstudio8_3.zip
Regarding FDC support: Today I bought a Turbo-R on Ebay (I am very sure that it was TOOOOO expensive, but never mind, I am still happy that I will have it soon ), so I will even be able to test the new routines on a real machine.
The next preview will probably include:
- 16K more free ram (good for 128K only machines)
- saving the config works
- support of all FDCs, which are similiar to the WD2793
But I will hurry up with Toshiba FDC support, too (you can be sure I will speed up with the implementation, when the Turbo-R arrives  ). |
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Prodatron
msx master
Posts: 1088 | Posted: June 27 2006, 20:04 |
@Koga: Are you planning to code in SymBasic or in assembler? In any case feel free to contact me (jmika a t prodatron d o t net) for any help regarding developing for SymbOS. Regarding the usage of SymStudio you should better ask TrebMint.
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PingPong
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msx professional
Posts: 885 | Posted: June 27 2006, 21:06 |
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| @Koga: Are you planning to code in SymBasic or in assembler? In any case feel free to contact me (jmika a t prodatron d o t net) for any help regarding developing for SymbOS. Regarding the usage of SymStudio you should better ask TrebMint.
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Regarding programming i think a third language would be 'c' so i will try with Hitech 'c'. When you havve time, can you give a link to the asm source of a very simple and stupid SymbOS app (like 'hello world!' to have a look on how to structure it in 'C' or pascal ?
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Sonic_aka_T
msx guru
Posts: 2262 | Posted: June 27 2006, 21:38 |
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| Regarding FDC support: Today I bought a Turbo-R on Ebay (I am very sure that it was TOOOOO expensive, but never mind, I am still happy that I will have it soon ), so I will even be able to test the new routines on a real machine.
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Wow! Congratulations! I promise you one thing tho: you will *love* this machine!  SymbOS should run like a wet dream on it!  |
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karloch
msx addict
Posts: 400 | Posted: June 27 2006, 23:17 |
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| Wow! Congratulations! I promise you one thing tho: you will *love* this machine! SymbOS should run like a wet dream on it!
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I couldn't agree more, you will really love your turboR, it's an excellent machine. I think that you are already more than aware of the great features of the turboR, but if not you can take a look here.
Congratulations for your great adquisition! |
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wolf_
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msx legend
Posts: 4663 | Posted: June 28 2006, 00:47 |
..poor CPC-scene.. he's converted now ..
*harharhar* |
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k0ga
msx user
Posts: 52 | Posted: June 28 2006, 09:26 |
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| @Koga: Are you planning to code in SymBasic or in assembler? In any case feel free to contact me (jmika a t prodatron d o t net) for any help regarding developing for SymbOS. Regarding the usage of SymStudio you should better ask TrebMint.
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In assembler, but I like SymStudio us form creator (my BASIC skills never was good ^_^!!!). Other thing Podatron, I think would be good a MSX-DOS program which allow select IDE partition, since have to run SymbOS to select partition when you can't use partition 4 is a bit ugly  (it's my case). |
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Prodatron
msx master
Posts: 1088 | Posted: June 28 2006, 09:46 |
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| In assembler, but I like SymStudio us form creator (my BASIC skills never was good ^_^!!!). Other thing Podatron, I think would be good a MSX-DOS program which allow select IDE partition, since have to run SymbOS to select partition when you can't use partition 4 is a bit ugly (it's my case).
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FYI, TrebMint sent an update yesterday evening, and I uploaded it today at 09:00 to the same link, so maybe you should download it again.
Regarding IDE partition: Ok, I will add a new command line option, where you can select the partition. |
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Trebmint
msx addict
Posts: 262 | Posted: June 28 2006, 10:32 |
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| Regarding programming i think a third language would be 'c' so i will try with Hitech 'c'. When you havve time, can you give a link to the asm source of a very simple and stupid SymbOS app (like 'hello world!' to have a look on how to structure it in 'C' or pascal ?
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For creating an template/empty app you might find the asm file that symstudio produces useful. How symstudio works is first to create a single entire listing which is then run through the assembler. It does have 4 or 5k of routines releated to symbasic, but these are all in one chunk and can be removed easily. From this you should be able to pick up the app header, event handler, and how all the forms objects are structured.
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| In assembler, but I like SymStudio us form creator (my BASIC skills never was good ^_^!!!).
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Well symstudio's assembler is working okay. The problem people may find is that the text editor doesn't offer much of the functionality people expect today, although this will all come in time. You should however be able to use the editor to code a smallish app without calling me too many rude words.
I chose Basic as the second language as this was 1 I guess that everybody would have used given that it was the core language issued with both the cpc and msx.
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Prodatron
msx master
Posts: 1088 | Posted: June 29 2006, 22:23 |
Just two question...
- Not so important:
Currently I am testing FDC support on the MSX2 National FS-5500 in BlueMSX. The strange thing is, that the FD-Led is blinking, when I switch it on. Is this ok?
- More important:
I had a look on the MSX2 National FS-5500 diskrom and figured out, that they use the port range #7fb8-#7fbc instead of #7f80-#7f84. In this thread and in the Portar document it is mentioned, that #7fb8-#7fbc is used by SVI (and #7f80-#7f84 by National). Seems that National use the same FDC like SVI? And is #7f80-#7f84 only used by the arabic MSX?
Another question about BlueMSX: How does it choose the FDC? I can't find any FDC type information in the config.INI files.
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