Wolf_, yes it has hotkeys, as I used it in the CPC version. Also, for creating apps there is a complete visual IDE for M$ Windoze called SymStudio

Yours,

Wolf_ : Here you can download SymStudio http://www.symbos.de/files/symstudiov7.zip It's a beta, but can see how it is

That's not really what I mean tho, I hate form-editors. I just mean special commands to create a window, button, scrollbar manually and use things like handles for such objects.

Like for example Blitz+ or Blitzmax works:

MyWindow=CreateWindow("title",0,0,640,480)
MyButton=CreateButton("Ok",32,32,64,24,MyWindow)

And then a typical evensystem where you wait for events from these gadgets (mousemove, mousepresses etc.)..

Wolf_ Symstudio did originally start as just a form editor to help prodatron. However it's more than that now considering you can build complete applications with it. Its designed to be a tool where you can integrate graphic, form and code data easily. And yes any graphic/form objects created have a handle, plus all the info related to the object e.g

a1 = button1.x
button1.caption="changed text"

Symbos is indeed event driven just like Blitz+ etc, however symstudio offers an additional benefit that it automatically processes the event. That means when an event occurs it goes directly to the specific routine you coded for it, just like visual basic.

Currently I'm working on a integrated version of basic, which will freely mix with the assembly code.

I really hope non-Windows users will also be able to write apps for this.

diederick76: I believe a lot can be done by using WINE for non-MS systems.

Sorry, prodatron: i've wrote:

"I think should be important allowing symbos to boot also from fdd, because there are no more msx user that can use IDE in REAL MSX machines.
Will be pretty if almost the western digital controller support should be implemented."

but this should be:

"
I think should be important allowing symbos to boot also from fdd, because there are no MANY msx users that can use IDE in REAL MSX machines."

PingPong: with openMSX you can create any kind of harddisk image you like, and import files on the partitions. See doc/using-diskmanipulator.txt in the openMSX installation dir or sources.

Also, ANYONE can use IDE on a real MSX, because you can still buy an IDE interface at Sunrise!

First of all: teriffic work Prodatron!! Keep it up!

Quote:

So is it not possible to order one of the existing IDE controlers (like the Sunrise) any more??

Sunrise IDE interface can still be bought at http://www.msx.ch/sunformsx/
but I'd suggest the Compact Flash interface (which is basically the IDE interface, but with CF cards)

Good to know I will order one soon. Btw, is it possible to format hard discs in FAT16 or FAT32, too? The "idefdisk" tool Dvik sent me, seems to support FAT12 only.

Sunrise IDE support is implemented now. Here is a new screen shot:



It was quite easy to adapt the Amstrad CPC IDE routines for the MSX/Sunrise. In general I just needed to replace some IN/OUTs with LD r,(n)/(n),r. I hope it will be the same for the other IDE devices. Is it important to support them all?

MineSweeper runs without problems But there are still some issues, as SymCommander currently crashes.

Well, that was impressive fast!....

Where is the documentation?

I want to know which structure you use about memory?

and how did it handle threads/processes?

by the way CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

For FAT16 to work, you need the FAT16 tool. Get it here.
Having a FAT12 partition to boot from and to place programs that are not FAT16 compatible is a good thing btw

FAT32 is unsupported afaik. FAT16 is, information and utils can be found on http://www.msx.ch/sunformsx/download/idetxt/instr-fat16.html

Does anyone know if this is limited to Sunrise IDE's?

And again, without the . : http://www.msx.ch/sunformsx/download/idetxt/instr-fat16.html