You don't here anybody complain for example about the ocm not having a disk drive.. media is not important at all.. (well it's nicer when it's fast)

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I can't understand the "cas port" -thing either... I mean, really who gives a shit? Should we also have cassette port added to the one chip msx too? Just to make it part of the msx -family.

Anything with an MSX logo is part of the MSX family. If ASCII decided to 'weaken' the MSX standard by allowing the cassette port to be omitted, then that's their call. Imagine if MSX would've been the world standard we all once hoped it would be. Could you imagine new MSX models in the year 2042 with a casette port for the sake of compatibilty? Standards can evolve, and even the relatively dead MSX standard has/does.

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lol yeah maybe it should be excluded. If it's any consolation, it was the 1st TurboR model i was offered! I hear it had shite sound. I was just thinking about games like Metal Gear which requires a tape to save - is there a way around that?

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Yes end it in one go . There is disk saving version somewhere.

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Hey Yo! lol yeah maybe it should be excluded. If it's any consolation, it was the 1st TurboR model i was offered! I hear it had shite sound. I was just thinking about games like Metal Gear which requires a tape to save - is there a way around that? Regards

It was, since ASCII weakened the standard with the 2+, and removed the casport altogether with the tR. The fact that it's an ST doesn't change much, it's still a pretty cool computer. The sound output is indeed of a lower quality on the ST (it has some noise), but nothing that can't be fixed. Don't get me wrong tho; I'm not at all trying to tell you what MSX you should or should not buy. All I'm saying is that the tR is as much of an MSX as any other MSX model, and a great one at that. Of course if you'd rather have an MSX with a cassette port that's a perfectly valid argument. Regarding Metal Gear, there is indeed a hack around which can save to disk, plus BiFi recently made a version which can even save to the Game Master's SRAM. To save with an original Metal Gear cartridge you would indeed need an MSX with a casette port or a turboR with a patched BIOS.

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I have been offered a Sony HB-F1XDJ MSX2+ computer. Shall i take it? Is it as good as a Sanyo Wavy?

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You should look for a memory mapper as well, as the F1XDJ only has 64kB RAM...

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Would that Sony MSX2+ be a good model to get or are they crap? Where would i get a memory mapper from or is there any other way to upgrade the RAM?

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There's nothing special about Sony MSX2+ machines; sure, they're prolly the sexiest and stylish machines of the MSX2+ family; but they're pretty dull.

The special machines are:

- All Panasonic machines: Turbo mode (5.38Mhz)
- Sany Wavy70FD & Wavy70FD2: BASIC KUN & 2 Diskdrives (only the 70FD2).

Take a look at Companies which produced MSX2+ computers

There aren't that many MSX2+ to choose from but the Sony HB-F1XDJ is a solid choice. I used to own one these machines and had no problems with them. Currently I now use a Sony HB-F1XV which a great MSX2+ too. The only hurdle is the 64mb Ram. If your into european software, then you'll definitely need to upgrade the Ram. I personally don't really use any more than 64kb because I just play japanese games.

For external Ram cartridges goto Padial's website. IMO his 4mb memory mapper is the best.

I could imagine someone wanting a CAS port if you have a large collection of tape games or something, and really want to run the originals rather than some copy.

As for memorymappers...
Some software has problems with memorymappers larger than 2MB. I have one with 4MB that does indeed lock up when trying to run certain programs. As long as that program only requires 64kb, it's no problem, of course (just remove the memory mapper in that case).
Either way, I have almost no use for it anymore - my remaining MSX ...err, hackSX (which I almost don't use anyway - blame that on the GameReader ^_^ ) has 512kb internal memory which is enough for nearly everything.

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This Sony MSX2+ has the all important CAS port doesn't it?!

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Hey Yo! This Sony MSX2+ has the all important CAS port doesn't it?! Regards

Yup.

The CAS port ain't all that important, but I prefer to have one. I still have my cassette of Zanac and its always cool to bring that out. It's interesting to see the expression on my friends face when they hear that godawful noise for 5 long minutes. Especially when none of them had ever seen a game loaded on cassette. My friends say it's archaic.

Zanac had a release on tape? I never knew that.

I have a few tape games.... my datarecorder broke though... not really a problem, I still have a cable, and a regular tape deck usually works too. I also have that games collection CD

I must say, C64 owners had it better with their tapes... they had SID tunes during loading!