Interesting find, dvik. I've confirmed it on my Canon V-20 MSX1: The VRAM address gets updated no matter what. Note though that the read ahead and address increment will only happen if both bits 7 and 6 are clear.

manuel: the jittering background during scrolling, eg. the stars in Alpha Roid (tested with blueMSX 2.6.1 and MSX Japanese config). I suspect this will look better if you'd emulate at very low level like the way mentioned in tmsposting.txt

(sorry, this is getting off-topic)

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Hope you don't mind; here's a disk version for those with a MSX1 with diskdrive, like me download here hm.. this fails on my msx1, but works on my msx2?

ah, replaced with a working version

esau: MRC would gladly host a package with original, CAS and DSK version of the demo in our downloads corner. Can I add such a package?

@snout: of course! No one would be happier than me Great to see such a helpful and active community, not at
all what I expected at first.

@dvik: ACE demos! really stunning stuff.. that's just the normal PSG for the music? damn.
Now I definitely need to get a diskdrive to watch them for real. And I suppose they need at least 64k ram?

@esau: Check out http://youtube.com/watch?v=QJWDx81ph1o Its a pretty neat MSX1 demo

Beware, we have a reputation turning random ppl into MSX users.. just see what has happened to prodatron..

And since teh brag is on: *click*

@wolf_ someone really likes you multiple recordings of your demos. Imo these are among the best (if not the best) msx2 demos.

@manuel: There are green/blue lines behind the traktor logo, not grey dots as in the video

Been watching some more stuff on youtube now, and there really is some good ones out there!
Curious though the msx-scene seems pretty cut off from the rest of the pc/amiga/c64/etc scene which
is otherwise kinda tight (Traktor is mostly an amiga group). Maybe this is because we live in Sweden
where nobody's ever heard of msx.

esau: I guessed you were Swedish. I am too (but live in the US atm) Another blueMSX developer is Swedish too, Tomas Karlsson if you know of him.

The MSX2 has separate video RAM that has its own command engine, and operations are block-based. It's practical for games, but demo-effects that aren't based on moving blocks are close to impossible. We can send about 5kB per int to the VRAM. So a lot of typical demostuff is (nearly) impossible. This makes the MSX kindof an oddball between the rest, not much to impress ppl with on a party. I do think however that the MSX sounds the best With a Moonsound it runs circles around the other 8bit systems..

dvik: cool! thought you were netherlanders the lot of you No, don't know of him, but then again I didn't know
anything until we started looking at the msx hardware last autumn. Suppose you could tell we're swedish from
the use of epa-traktors... and countryside swedish at that

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manuel: the jittering background during scrolling, eg. the stars in Alpha Roid (tested with blueMSX 2.6.1 and MSX Japanese config). I suspect this will look better if you'd emulate at very low level like the way mentioned in tmsposting.txt

tmsposting.txt?? What do you mean?

Also, I'm not sure about the jittering. Are you sure it's not happening on a real MSX?
(Hmm, just checked, they seem to go pretty smooth on openMSX....)

I'm a country boy too with friends that owned epa traktors Where I grew up (northern Vastmanland) most of my friends had C64 or Amiga, some of them did quite nice demos at the time (totally forgot what groups they were in).