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How long will Brazil be nixed from msxarchive.nl???

Omega
msx user
Posts: 44
Posted: November 24 2007, 21:35   
what is your ip, samor?
mikael-san
msx friend
Posts: 1
Posted: November 24 2007, 23:30   
I did one test with traceroute and I receive this:

1 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
2 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms gigabitethernet3-1.511-enn-rj-rotd-02.telemar.net.br [200.164.97.73]
3 * 15 ms 15 ms pos13-0-0-bot-rj-rotd-02.telemar.net.br [200.222.121.133]
4 171 ms 171 ms 171 ms 200.223.131.246
5 187 ms 171 ms 218 ms if-0-11.ihar1.N60-NewYork.teleglobe.net [209.58.18.1]
6 1031 ms 171 ms 171 ms if-4-0-0.mcore3.NYY-NewYork.teleglobe.net [216.6.81.21]
7 171 ms 171 ms 187 ms 216.6.97.41
8 187 ms 187 ms 171 ms 216.6.97.14
9 265 ms 265 ms 265 ms if-7-0-0.core2.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [216.6.82.70]
10 265 ms 265 ms * Vlan2.msfc1.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.231.82.4]
11 265 ms 265 ms 265 ms Vlan188.msfc1.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.231.82.234]
12 249 ms 249 ms 249 ms 213.207.113.84
13 265 ms 249 ms 265 ms alp-ja-z1-vl22-s.interconnect.nl [212.83.200.129]
14 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
15 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
16 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.

Strangely, in the same place as samor...

Hope it helps,

Samor
msx professional
Posts: 841
Posted: November 24 2007, 23:44   
Quote:

what is your ip, samor?



is it ok if I e-mail that, instead of posting it here? I know IP's are traceable and all anyway, but I don't really like posting it on a public forum....

SLotman
msx professional
Posts: 518
Posted: November 25 2007, 01:04   
Here's mine... strangely fails in the same place as the others:

1 10 ms 10 ms 8 ms 10.10.0.1
2 * * * time-out.
3 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms embratel-G5-1-gacc07.rjo.embratel.net.br
4 152 ms 152 ms 154 ms ebt-G5-0-intl03.rjo.embratel.net.br
5 281 ms 283 ms 285 ms ebt-ge-1-2-0-intl02.mianap.embratel.net.br
6 135 ms 135 ms 135 ms sl-st21-mia-9-3.sprintlink.net
7 135 ms 137 ms 134 ms sl-bb21-mia-8-0-0.sprintlink.net
8 155 ms 136 ms 136 ms sl-bb22-mia-4-0-0.sprintlink.net
9 157 ms 153 ms 158 ms sl-bb21-dc-11-0-0.sprintlink.net
10 170 ms 153 ms * sl-bb23-rly-6-0.sprintlink.net
11 * 160 ms 156 ms sl-bb21-pen-12-0.sprintlink.net
12 146 ms 147 ms 158 ms sl-bb26-pen-8-0.sprintlink.net
13 * 161 ms 155 ms sl-bb27-pen-15-0.sprintlink.net
14 148 ms 146 ms 148 ms sl-bb23-pen-9-0.sprintlink.net
15 155 ms 154 ms 156 ms sl-bb21-tuk-1-0-0.sprintlink.net
16 221 ms 218 ms 219 ms sl-bb21-lon-12-0-0.sprintlink.net
17 232 ms * * sl-bb22-lon-3-0.sprintlink.net
18 222 ms 221 ms 221 ms sl-bb20-bru-14-0.sprintlink.net
19 223 ms 223 ms 222 ms sl-bb21-bru-15-0.sprintlink.net
20 237 ms 233 ms 224 ms sl-bb20-ams-14-0.sprintlink.net
21 237 ms 241 ms 227 ms sl-gw22-ams-1-0-0.sprintlink.net
22 * * * time-out.
23 241 ms 231 ms 233 ms 213.207.113.84
24 229 ms 246 ms 235 ms alp-ja-z1-vl22-s.interconnect.nl
25 * * * time-out.
26 * * * time-out.
27 * * * time-out.
28 * * * time-out.
29 * * * time-out.
30 * * * time-out.
Tabajara-Labs
msx novice
Posts: 21
Posted: November 25 2007, 01:18   
Here is mine (I have no troubles in sending my IP since it is dynamic)

---8<---cut here---8<---
C:\Documents and Settings\Alexandre Souza>tracert www.msxarchive.nl

Rastreando a rota para msxarchive.nl [213.207.108.33]
com no máximo 30 saltos:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.254.254
2 17 ms 15 ms 18 ms 200.217.255.152
3 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms gigabitethernet6-0.81-vta-es-rotd-01.telemar.net
.br [200.217.30.25]
4 240 ms 243 ms 242 ms pos14-0-hga-mg-rotd-04.telemar.net.br [200.216.1
33.81]
5 53 ms 50 ms 48 ms pos9-1-0-arc-rj-rotn-01.telemar.net.br [200.223.
131.97]
6 * * 382 ms SO5-0-0.NYC-US-ROTB-01.telemar.net.br [200.223.1
31.233]
7 366 ms 360 ms 365 ms if-0-11.ihar1.N60-NewYork.teleglobe.net [209.58.
18.1]
8 161 ms 161 ms 161 ms if-4-0-0.mcore3.NYY-NewYork.teleglobe.net [216.6
.81.21]
9 291 ms 203 ms 203 ms 216.6.97.41
10 388 ms 387 ms 386 ms if-5-0.core1.NTO-NewYork.teleglobe.net [216.6.82
.65]
11 252 ms 251 ms 251 ms if-7-0-0.core2.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [216.
6.82.70]
12 448 ms 448 ms 451 ms Vlan2.msfc1.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.231.
82.4]
13 246 ms 247 ms 248 ms Vlan188.msfc1.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.23
1.82.234]
14 579 ms 364 ms 254 ms 213.207.113.84
15 270 ms 271 ms 272 ms alp-ja-z1-vl22-s.interconnect.nl [212.83.200.129
]
16 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
17 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
18 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
19 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
20 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
21 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
22 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
23 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
24 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
25 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
26 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
27 * * ^C
C:\Documents and Settings\Alexandre Souza>
---8<---cut here---8<---

Hope that helps

Thanks
Alexandre Souza
sd_snatcher
msx user
Posts: 49
Posted: November 25 2007, 01:23   
Hi Omega!

I'm also having trouble to access msxarchive. This is delaying the development of the MSX-Audio BIOS enhancements...

Here is my traceroute:

1 <my router> (x.x.x.x) 0.969 ms 0.544 ms 0.547 ms
2 201.86.16.1.adsl.gvt.net.br (201.86.16.1) 14.336 ms 8.794 ms 10.522 ms
3 * * *
4 201.47.0.178 (201.47.0.178) 18.045 ms 41.870 ms 16.164 ms
5 201.12.248.1 (201.12.248.1) 38.407 ms 41.841 ms 39.601 ms
6 intelig (200.184.193.152) 39.646 ms intelig (200.184.193.213) 46.852 ms 46.938 ms
7 sl (144.223.64.193) 203.187 ms 205.333 ms 207.135 ms
8 sl (144.232.9.196) 205.471 ms 205.546 ms 198.848 ms
9 sl (144.232.2.243) 198.152 ms 194.531 ms 206.871 ms
10 sl (144.232.18.116) 210.852 ms 195.899 ms 203.163 ms
11 sl (144.232.9.215) 200.493 ms 204.504 ms 207.631 ms
12 sl (144.232.20.33) 207.234 ms 203.283 ms 197.554 ms
13 sl (144.232.16.30) 192.332 ms 195.529 ms 194.396 ms
14 sl (144.232.16.54) 188.598 ms 197.693 ms 194.871 ms
15 sl (144.232.16.69) 191.573 ms 197.627 ms 195.537 ms
16 sl (144.232.20.139) 168.500 ms 165.181 ms 176.831 ms
17 sl (144.232.9.208) 279.437 ms 283.202 ms 286.226 ms
18 sl (213.206.128.54) 235.442 ms 235.030 ms 227.015 ms
19 sl (213.206.129.142) 270.739 ms 283.444 ms 277.449 ms
20 sl (217.149.32.33) 277.042 ms 272.769 ms 286.518 ms
21 sl (217.149.32.195) 279.396 ms 275.190 ms 276.376 ms
22 * * *
23 213.207.113.84 (213.207.113.84) 277.420 ms 275.730 ms 276.788 ms
24 alp (212.83.200.129) 273.103 ms 277.367 ms 273.896 ms
25 * * *
26 * * *
27 * * *
28 * * *
29 * * *
30 * * *
31 * * *
32 * * *
33 * * *
34 * * *
35 * * *

SLotman
msx professional
Posts: 518
Posted: November 25 2007, 05:17   
sd_snatcher: try accessing msx archive through this site: http://www.the-cloak.com/anonymous-surfing-home.html - it works, and it's a workaround while we can't directly access it...
manuel
msx guru
Posts: 3368
Posted: November 25 2007, 09:57   
Traceroute gives similar output here, but I can reach the site normally:

traceroute to www.msxarchive.nl (213.207.108.33), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 * * *
2 * * *
3 s5592d401.adsl.wanadoo.nl (85.146.212.1) 22.219 ms 24.075 ms 24.169 ms
4 V666.dr4-asd6.nl.euro.net (194.134.154.53) 27.055 ms 28.298 ms 30.458 ms
5 10GE2-4.cr2-asd6.nl.euro.net (194.134.162.61) 31.062 ms 33.255 ms 33.333 ms
6 10GE1-1.cr2-asd4.nl.euro.net (194.134.162.162) 36.085 ms 20.642 ms 20.305 ms
7 PC14.er1-asd5.nl.euro.net (194.134.162.11) 22.201 ms 20.847 ms 22.120 ms
8 ams-ix.interconnect.nl (195.69.144.139) 21.868 ms 22.829 ms 21.575 ms
9 213.207.113.84 (213.207.113.84) 22.877 ms 21.026 ms 22.057 ms
10 alp-ja-z1-vl22-s.interconnect.nl (212.83.200.129) 25.983 ms 25.762 ms 37.936 ms
11 * * *
12 * * *
13 * * *
etc. etc. (only stars from now on)

As I said, I can use the site normally.
tfh
msx addict
Posts: 492
Posted: November 25 2007, 10:02   
Hmmm, which makes me wonder, since I am using the same hoster as msxarchive.nl... Can my site be reached from Brasil? Can maybe someone test if www.file-hunter.com is reachable? I am on a different server, but at the same hosting company.

Thanks
Omega
msx user
Posts: 44
Posted: November 25 2007, 10:58   
yeah that's a good one tfh, i wonder about that as well!
Tabajara-Labs
msx novice
Posts: 21
Posted: November 25 2007, 11:14   
Same here, cannot access your site, tfh.

---8<---cut here---8<---
C:\Documents and Settings\Alexandre Souza>tracert www.file-hunter.com

Rastreando a rota para file-hunter.com [213.207.108.36]
com no máximo 30 saltos:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.254.254
2 17 ms 18 ms 18 ms 200.217.255.152
3 19 ms 18 ms 18 ms gigabitethernet6-0.81-vta-es-rotd-01.telemar.net
.br [200.217.30.25]
4 40 ms 39 ms 38 ms pos14-0-hga-mg-rotd-04.telemar.net.br [200.216.1
33.81]
5 133 ms 53 ms 52 ms pos9-1-0-arc-rj-rotn-01.telemar.net.br [200.223.
131.97]
6 171 ms 170 ms 171 ms SO-1-1-0-NYC-US-ROTB-01.telemar.net.br [200.223.
131.69]
7 166 ms 164 ms 176 ms if-0-11.ihar1.N60-NewYork.teleglobe.net [209.58.
18.1]
8 166 ms 165 ms 165 ms if-4-0-0.mcore3.NYY-NewYork.teleglobe.net [216.6
.81.21]
9 194 ms 191 ms 194 ms 216.6.97.41
10 185 ms 186 ms 187 ms 216.6.97.14
11 258 ms 256 ms 257 ms if-7-0-0.core2.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [216.
6.82.70]
12 249 ms 249 ms 248 ms Vlan4.msfc1.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.231.
82.185]
13 251 ms 250 ms 248 ms Vlan188.msfc1.AD1-Amsterdam.teleglobe.net [80.23
1.82.234]
14 254 ms 254 ms 254 ms 213.207.113.84
15 271 ms 272 ms 270 ms alp-ja-z1-vl22-s.interconnect.nl [212.83.200.129
]
16 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
17 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
18 * * * Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
19 ^C
---8<---cut here---8<---
HansO
msx addict
Posts: 375
Posted: November 25 2007, 13:08   
Quote:

Quote:


The Dutch provider Sohosted is very cheap... I use that.
500MB with a datalimit of 10GB a month is 2,50 euros a month there... then you can optionally get a domain name, which is 14 euros a year and I think a one-time only 15 euros registration costs.
No, I'm not affiliated with them



Thanks for the pointer. Good prices, my current provider has about the same price levels. Adding the about 650 MB MSX files will cost me about 70 to 80 euro per year extra. Every year. Tristan spends more, so does the MRC crew for their website.

And to be honest, I will not spent that on the MSX community anymore. I have done that nearly 10 years now. If Tristan stops spending all his money on the msxarchive, the material will go away.



I have an offer from Brazil, thanks!, so my webspace problems will be solved and all MSX material will move there.
manuel
msx guru
Posts: 3368
Posted: November 25 2007, 13:28   
HansO: what is exactly the problem with msxarchive? Tristan is doing his best to keep the stuff online, paid with his own money. Why are you so harsh on msxarchive.nl?? It's not Tristan's fault that stuff had to be moved from FUNet...
tfh
msx addict
Posts: 492
Posted: November 25 2007, 14:11   
@Tabajara-Labs
Thanks for testing, I will ask my hosting about this as well. Thanks!

@HansO
Have you ever talked with OmegaMSX about this? It seems a bit ungratefull..
Tabajara-Labs
msx novice
Posts: 21
Posted: November 25 2007, 16:24   
Manuel, HansO isn´t being harsh. He is just commenting that the problem that affected Brazilians (and seems that this is not fault of OmegaMSX) is also affecting his site. But seems that good things are coming for them, lets wait!
 
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