Hello ladies and gentlemen, put on your kaki blouses and join poke on his wild safari through the uncharted territories
of MB ! Many questions will be asked, and you'll probably all get devoured by lions... or not...

Ok, so shoot ! ( get it? since it's a safari? har har )

first... how do I get samples from my pc converted to the music module, without sampling ?
How should they be saved, in what file format etc.

ps. my jeep has a flat tire, and I don't even have a driver's license

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first... how do I get samples from my pc converted to the music module, without sampling ?

Check these links:
http://www.msxarchive.nl/pub/msx/programming/asm/sources/xadpcm.pma
http://www.msxarchive.nl/pub/msx/programming/c/sources/xadpcm.tgz

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first... how do I get samples from my pc converted to the music module, without sampling ? How should they be saved, in what file format etc.

"Raw" should be good (no additional data like loop position etc.).

Also try .voc or .wav files IIRC.

Mmm, seems I can only choose to load samplekits in moonblaster, I don't see something separate
for loading just 1 sample. And I presume these samplekits are made in MB after you have a bunch of samples
already ? but how to get them in ?
Also, what should be used to run those apps nyyrikki ?

[F-3] brings you to the samplemenu.

From there, manage loose sample files with [F-5].

aaaaaah ! merci bien mr. seed ^_^
is it also possible to save your own fm voices ?
I see they are saved with every song, but it would
be convenient if they can be used in other songs as well.

Yeah, same story:

[F-4] = voice menu.

Then use [F-5] again for specified file options.
You can load & save loose "own voices" and also complete voice banks (comparable to a samplekit).

You're welcome!

and on another note, it doesn't seem to recognize the wav, adpcm or voc files.
Should they be a specific frequency or mono/stereo 8/16 bits ?
interesting, I couldn't have ever guessed there was a submenu in both
that saves a lot of frustration ^_^

IIRC only mono, but both 8 & 16 bit is possible.

[edit] Not 100% sure about the 16-bit...
Try it.

I think DemonSeed has bad memory or then there is something that I just really don't know about MoonBlaster.

AFAIK MoonBlaster can understand Samplekits (.MBK) and individual samples (.MBS) The .MBS sample file format is direct dump of sample from MSX-Audio memory. MSX-Audio keeps the sample in memory in custom 4bit ADPCM-format that is not compatible with modern standards.

To convert sample from PC you need to do following:
- Save the sample in RAW unsigned 8bit mono format with name <filename>.PCM
- Copy the file to MSX
- From MSX-DOS run PCM2ADP <filename> (Look the first link I posted earlyer)
- Type: REN <filename>.ADP <filename>.MBS

Now you can load the sample in MoonBlaster. Standard MSX-Audio has 32KB of sample memory, so you can convert max 64KB PCM-sample.

Hmmm... I never used that toolie, but I did use to make sample kits in MoonBlaster. For the life of me, I don't remember how, tho.

Then again, maybe I was just lazy and used the MusMod sampler. At least I did that for Bombaman

I only made 2 samplekits on MusMod ever, both by sampling directly in MB. After that I've been using these kits or just ripped other's

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I think DemonSeed has bad memory or then there is something that I just really don't know about MoonBlaster.

I think DemonSeed is refering to that xadpcm tool mentioned before, not to MB

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I think DemonSeed is refering to that xadpcm tool mentioned before, not to MB

Well... PCM2ADP also accepts only this one and only format...

I just did some testing and it seems that this tool is not very good either... Input file needs to start from silence, if you want to get reasonable conversion result. (First byte needs to be #80 ?) Also files >~32KB seem to hang the computer.

phoo... hmmm so there isn't a tool that would do all conversion on the pc then ?
it's a bit silly if you have samples on your pc, and you'd have to sample them
with the music module afterwards... converting would seem easier I guess

Knowing nyyrikki, he'll prolly be making some highly obfuscated basic tool that will do the conversion..