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Help needed with 1Mb 30 pin Simm in 8250

Erikie
msx lover
Posts: 68
Posted: July 01 2008, 08:20   
Final Update: It WORKS!
Did a complete check of everything and changed some of the ICs (which I did not think are broken, need to test them on my tester)
I think I forgot the last wire of the last step ...
At least the computer now sees all 1024 Kb and running testram and maptest4.2 there are no errors present!!

He OeiOei, going to try your old board again?
HansO
msx addict
Posts: 375
Posted: July 01 2008, 09:35   
Quote:

Final Update: It WORKS!
Did a complete check of everything and changed some of the ICs (which I did not think are broken, need to test them on my tester)
I think I forgot the last wire of the last step ...
At least the computer now sees all 1024 Kb and running testram and maptest4.2 there are no errors present!!

He OeiOei, going to try your old board again?



Congratulations. Good to hear the modification works and the instruction is correct.
Any suggestions to improve it?
jltursan
msx professional
Posts: 887
Posted: July 01 2008, 10:48   
What's the meaning of "cut the pins 1 t/m 6 and 8 t/m 13 half"?. I'm not totally sure about it...
Erikie
msx lover
Posts: 68
Posted: July 01 2008, 11:20   
Quote:

What's the meaning of "cut the pins 1 t/m 6 and 8 t/m 13 half"?. I'm not totally sure about it...


It means that you take the new IC and cut the thinner part of the whole pin.
Each pin is wider at the top and thin at the bottom. As you don't want to have that pin connecting to the IC where you put it on you remove some part of the pin.
So you still could need solder a wire to it if needed.

Erikie
msx lover
Posts: 68
Posted: July 01 2008, 11:28   
Quote:


Congratulations. Good to hear the modification works and the instruction is correct.
Any suggestions to improve it?



Well the general instructions are pretty good to read. Had some trouble in the beginning with the 74LS670
as 2 wires are soldered to the version on the PCB and some on the added IC.
Also if someone has a schematic of the added logic to the original mapper it might help checking too.
I drew a (very bad) picture of the new mapper to see the new logic and so it was easier to check all the wires on the mapper logic.

Oh and one last thing, this could help a lot for people who are not that experienced:
I removed first the memory ICs and put sockets in. That way I was able to see if all the wires are still in one piece on the memory part of the PCB. So you then put the memory back in and see if the machine still works.
You only need 2 and put them in socket 133 and 134. If you have 4 it is even better.
Without the memory ICs an external memory cartridge also helps.

After that I put in all the ICs and wires and tested again with the old memory
then I connected the SIMM.
This way you can trace your fault a little better then doing everything at once as it is very easy to make a mistake.


mohai
msx freak
Posts: 129
Posted: July 01 2008, 11:44   
Quote:

What's the meaning of "cut the pins 1 t/m 6 and 8 t/m 13 half"?. I'm not totally sure about it...



I think it means "cut the pins 1 TO 6 and 8 TO 13", but only the thin part (half pin).
jltursan
msx professional
Posts: 887
Posted: July 01 2008, 13:39   
Ok, I see; the "half" part is now clear; but the "t/m" (TO) thing is a typo then?
Erikie
msx lover
Posts: 68
Posted: July 01 2008, 13:56   
the 't/m' is typical Dutch. It is 'tot en met' in Dutch it means all the pins 1 2 3 4 5 6 (1 t/m 6)
HansO
msx addict
Posts: 375
Posted: July 01 2008, 14:51   
Quote:

the 't/m' is typical Dutch. It is 'tot en met' in Dutch it means all the pins 1 2 3 4 5 6 (1 t/m 6)


Indeed, a translation 'leftover'. I will try to correct the english version with these remarks.

Any chance of giving me the mapper circuit digram you have drawn? even if it is not that good it is better than what we have now!
Erikie
msx lover
Posts: 68
Posted: July 01 2008, 15:23   
Let me redraw it and scan it in tomorrow. Where can I get your email address?
Quickly scanned your site but did not see it immediately
HansO
msx addict
Posts: 375
Posted: July 01 2008, 15:42   
Quote:

Let me redraw it and scan it in tomorrow. Where can I get your email address?
Quickly scanned your site but did not see it immediately



This will work: msxhans (at) yahoo (dot) com
roadfighter
msx user
Posts: 55
Posted: July 01 2008, 18:59   
If anyone wants to try it out them selfs i have some 1Mb Simms left and you can have them for 50 cents a piece.And shipping of course.
I didn't check all of the simms so some can be broken
Just send me a mail at sokolowski1 -at- zonnet -dot- NL

I have build the 1 Mb expansion in to my 8280 with the explanation on HansO his site
and it works perfectly.
OeiOeiVogeltje
msx freak
Posts: 163
Posted: July 01 2008, 19:18   
id like the "updated" version of the thingy too
cax

msx master
Posts: 1028
Posted: July 01 2008, 19:48   
BTW, are there any RAM expanding guides for Yamaha MSX2 machines ?
roadfighter
msx user
Posts: 55
Posted: July 01 2008, 20:55   
Quote:

id like the "updated" version of the thingy too



Bring your msx to the next MvM meeting and we can have a look at it
 
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