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Super Lode Runner

hap
msx addict
Posts: 463
Posted: May 19 2003, 09:58   
Can anyone confirm if Super Lode Runner (crc 80ECAC11 ) is a good dump ? No emulator seems to be able to run this game.
BiFi
msx guru
Posts: 3142
Posted: May 19 2003, 10:42   
The megarom switch address used isn't supported by (m)any emulator(s).
hap
msx addict
Posts: 463
Posted: May 19 2003, 11:34   
The switch address is documented as 0000h, but this makes no sense.

If emulated, you can see that the ROM indeed writes to address 0000h, but also 8000h, and it writes the value '0', which would mean it wants to switch to page 0. The ROM is started in page 0, so it will end up in an infinite loop.
Latok
msx master
Posts: 1720
Posted: May 19 2003, 12:02   
It would go too far to state the developers were visionairs hey.....'Let's make this game not to run easily in future emulators'
hap
msx addict
Posts: 463
Posted: May 19 2003, 12:36   
Yes that would go a bit too far But I think the developers (Irem) created this odd mapper to prevent the game from being cracked. Irem also made R-Type, which has a weird mapper too.

Is there a cracked disk version of Super Lode Runner available ? It would be good to see how it's cracked. Please don't post where it can be downloaded, or this topic would be closed.
robertwilting
msx addict
Posts: 296
Posted: May 19 2003, 13:44   
IF I'm right there is.
Latok
msx master
Posts: 1720
Posted: May 19 2003, 13:54   
jonemaan, I would close the topic personally
warau
msx lover
Posts: 116
Posted: May 19 2003, 17:20   
Quote:

Is there a cracked disk version of Super Lode Runner available ?


I cracked Super Lode Runner two years ago. I also made a patched .ROM file running as a 16KB ASCII mapper MegaROM.

If you need, please contact me at jmorente@hotelescenter.es


manuel
msx guru
Posts: 3368
Posted: May 20 2003, 10:17   
Quote:

Can anyone confirm if Super Lode Runner (crc 80ECAC11 ) is a good dump ? No emulator seems to be able to run this game.



AFAIK, MESS can emulate it. But the game violates the MSX standard. More info is here: www.msxnet.org/tech/megaroms. It has also been discussed in the openMSX mailinglists. To support it in openMSX means some structural changes, since, again, the MSX standard is violated. See e.g. this thread: sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=2190349
hap
msx addict
Posts: 463
Posted: May 20 2003, 10:53   
Thanks everyone, Frits has correctly implemented the Super Lode Runner mapper in NLMSX now: one 16k bank at 8000h and the switch address at 0000h.

*edit* MESS emulates this game wrongly by the way: it maps 2 blocks of 8kb (2nd part of page 0) to the 4000h-7fffh bank. Super Lode Runner is only active at 8000h-bfffh
warau
msx lover
Posts: 116
Posted: May 20 2003, 19:03   
Quote:


AFAIK, MESS can emulate it. But the game violates the MSX standard. More info is here:



I don't understand why the MSX standard is violated by this game.
Please, explain to me! I want to know about


GuyveR800
msx guru
Posts: 3048
Posted: May 22 2003, 23:24   
Quote:

>>
AFAIK, MESS can emulate it. But the game violates the MSX standard. More info is here:
<<

I don't understand why the MSX standard is violated by this game.
Please, explain to me! I want to know about



The Super Lode Runner cartridge ignores the MSX SLOTSELECT signal.
warau
msx lover
Posts: 116
Posted: May 23 2003, 09:32   
Quote:


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The Super Lode Runner cartridge ignores the MSX SLOTSELECT signal.



I understand.

Hmmm...

Is it mandatory to acknowledge the slotselect signal?

Anyway, do you know if is there on the internet any book or manual explaining the msx slot/bus?
 
 







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