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| Wish for MSX-1 games which use MSX-2 possibilities.
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SLotman
msx professional
Posts: 590 |  Posted: January 05 2009, 22:32 |
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| That's not MSX1, SLotman, or was it post-processed after measuring to have 3 bits per r/g/b channel? (which is wrong, MSX1 colours aren't digitally generated).
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hmmm? I just ran BrMSX on MSX1 mode, took a picture, then on MSX2 mode, took another picture.
I just "reduced" the final picture to 256 colors so it wouldn't be too heavy to load on the page. But the colors didn't change.
This was just to point out that at least here in Brazil, the colors are more or less like that, not like on wolf's pictures...
I always hated games where faces were drawn on "Simpson's yellow"... but since MSX1 never had a nice "skin tone" (which appears on the picture posted by wolf) there were never much choice to color characters.
I am really interested to see which MSX has that tone, or how it could be... again, could it be a NTSC/Pal difference? At least on some consoles (Atari comes to mind) some colors change when changing NTSC/Pal emulation... |
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GhostwriterP
msx addict
Posts: 332 | Posted: January 05 2009, 22:34 |
I came up with the following pallete when I detect an msx2.
It is not a real aprroximate but is better than the predifined one when it comes to alterations, dithering and such. Yamaha should have just used this one as msx2 standard if you ask me. 
pal
word 000h
word 000h
word 612h
word 724h
word 226h
word 336h
word 262h
word 727h
word 272h
word 373h
word 562h
word 674h
word 512h
word 266h
word 666h
word 777h (ps: grb format)
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wolf_
msx legend
Posts: 5001 | Posted: January 05 2009, 22:43 |
SLotman, those Salamander pics were taken from openMSX.
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hap
msx professional
Posts: 643 | Posted: January 05 2009, 22:45 |
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| This was just to point out that at least here in Brazil, the colors are more or less like that, not like on wolf's pictures...
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mayhaps, what VDP brand/type did Expert use in their MSXes?
*edit* I mean Gradiente  |
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MäSäXi
msx professional
Posts: 686 | Posted: January 06 2009, 12:18 |
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| More on that: the MSX BASIC manual from Gradiente in the 80´s had all the colors *printed* on it´s cover.
Both Yellows match pretty close the ones on the "msx2" screenshot.
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Remember, when you print something into paper, colours are not the same as the ones you see on computer screen. And it´s not just with these printers we can buy from shops, book publishers have same problem too.
Anyway guys, please remember that it´s not just colour difference between MSX1 and MSX2. Different MSX1s have different colour tones too.... even same brand MSX1 machines have different colour tones too...
Is there colour differences between two SAME brand MSX2s? My SVI-728 MSX1s have clearly different colour tones when compared to each other, is there same thing happening between same brand MSX2s? |
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AuroraMSX
msx master
Posts: 1329 | Posted: January 06 2009, 13:07 |
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| [Is there colour differences between two SAME brand MSX2s? My SVI-728 MSX1s have clearly different colour tones when compared to each other, is there same thing happening between same brand MSX2s?
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And then you didn't even get to the differences between TV's, CRT-monitors and LCD screens... I think expecting color 7 (regardless whether it's the default MSX1 or MSX2 red or the purple you get with COLOR=(7,7,0,5)) to be displayed in the exact same way all over the globe and on Jupiter and Mars is ehm... let's say, a tad on the optimistic side.
Oh, and life will become worse once we start using reflective displays, coz then even the color temperature of the ambient light comes into play  |
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