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| | Smallest MSX in the World |
| | Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 16:20 Submitted by: snout Topic: Hardware | | Source: Gigamix News
A Japanese MSX fan created the smallest MSX in the world to date. Well, actually it's a very small PC running the latest version of MSXPLAYer, connected to a small LCD screen and an MSX Game Reader. It's not a one chip MSX just yet, but it sure is a compact setup! Right here you can have a look at the computer running the internal FM-PAC software.
**update**
Though this news is published for entertaining purposes, some of our valued members do have a point when stating that the CIEL MSX built by Ademir Carchano ( www.msx.org/newspost1663.html) is much smaller and also Tujikawa's ESE MSX2 ( www.msx.org/newspost1337.html) is a bit smaller then the mentioned PC running MSX-PLAYer. If PC's running MSXPLAYer would count as MSX, some members think that phones should count too! In that case the smallest MSX would be the smallest Symbian cellphone running fMSX/60!
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| By SLotman on June 08 2004, 18:56 | Actually, this is far from being the smallest MSX in the world - for start it's just a PC, and it's so much MSX as the "MSX-PC" from ASCII.
And the Smallest MSX in the World was built by Ademir Carchano, and he showed it on "MSX Debouncer 2001". You can see the pictures on MSX Prķ:
http://www.msxpro.com/fotos/debounser_2001/dbnsr-10.jpg
http://www.msxpro.com/fotos/debounser_2001/dbnsr-11.jpg
The actual MSX is BEHIND the LCD screen, the thing on the floor is just the power source!
(going to try posting the image here, using the IMG tag... hope it works!)
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| By dvik on June 08 2004, 19:18 | If you count machines that runs an emulator I would guess the smallest one is a Nokia cellphone with the fMSX emulator.
But I think an MSX is not an MSX unless it has a Z80 so I guess the one SLotman wrote about may count as the smallest (at least it is the smallest one I've seen).
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| By POISONIC on June 08 2004, 20:05 | This is a PC ans it does not have a beating Z80 hart 
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| By POISONIC on June 08 2004, 20:11 | 
this looks more like a real MSX its created by ese artists
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| By POISONIC on June 08 2004, 20:17 | hmm snout can you please clear the double picture and the small one??
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| By karloch on June 08 2004, 21:30 | It is clear that if it is not a real MSX, then it is not the smallest MSX in world, because it would be my Nokia 3650 with fMSX/S60 
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| By Bart on June 08 2004, 22:43 | Guys, this news should not be taken so seriously It's entertaining and remarkable news, that's it.
Updated the newspost for your peace of mind
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| By snout on June 09 2004, 01:25 | Okay then, here's the real smallest 'MSX' in the world (to date)
How could I forget about fMSX/S60. It rocks!
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| By mth on June 09 2004, 03:27 | I don't think "having a Z80" is really essential to make something an MSX. Anything that acts convincingly as an MSX should be considered an MSX, in my opinion. How it is implemented doesn't matter, it only matters how it behaves.
The turbo R does not have a separate Z80 chip; it has a Z80 core combined with other logic inside one of its ICs. ESE's board does not have a Z80 chip either, it has a Z80 core programmed into FPGA together with other MSX functionality. So why couldn't an ARM or Pentium CPU which is running a software Z80 core be part of an MSX?
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| By sunrise on June 09 2004, 07:59 | Wrong, the ESE board has a z80 the possibility to have an original z80.
On the pictures shown it has, this is done because of the fact of creating space into teh fpga for other things
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| By karloch on June 09 2004, 12:03 | Argh... Indeed the Nokia 6600 r00lz, I hate the keypad of my 3650 v_v But anyway I'm very happy with my mobile and the fMSX/S60 ^^
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| By POISONIC on June 09 2004, 20:36 | well i dont care if the hardware is the same like a real MSX but it has to work like if your playing on a real msx
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| By Latok on June 11 2004, 10:15 | In my point of view, something is an MSX when it is being labelled as an MSX. A phone is not an MSX, a PC is not an MSX and so on. All this technical blabla and emulation and stuff being 'MSX'. I think it's b*llshit. A hardware device having an MSX mark and applying to some 'standard', now that's what I call an MSX And indeed, whether I like that device is dependable of the feeling I get playing with that device. It should be understandable for a dumbass like me and it should generate creativity. So far, only that ancient MSX standard, set in the 80s, really applies to these needs. I think it's incredible.
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| By ro on June 11 2004, 13:27 | so euh, what's the BIGGEST MSX around?
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| By POISONIC on June 13 2004, 21:02 | i do not know
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| By Grauw on June 18 2004, 12:51 | Well the 8280 would apply for the heaviest MSX in the world, I guess...
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| By pitpan on June 18 2004, 19:54 | HB-F700 case is atomic bomb-proof, I guess. It won't be easy for Commodore guys to smash such a computer 
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