Zandvoort 1991 video footage

Thank you, thank you, thank you Posse&Kier! Brought back quite some memories. Luckily the video comes without the distinctive smell of hundreds of MSX users packed into a large hall!

so, who was caught on camera? Mention timecodes! ^_^

p.s. is that 'FDD-demo 1 Marcel' or just a lookalike @ ~12:58-13:00?

If I'm not mistaken, TFH (with a lot of hair!) is sitting next to Mr. Feet. Am I correct?

01:37 - Alex Peetoom bending over?
02:28 - Alex Peetoom?
04:11 - Ernst Schuller, I guess
04:47 - Lady Di or something??? Whether it's 1991 or 2007, the usual "points" of interest are still predictable..
05:14 - Mr.Feet
05:48 - Andries Minnaard
07:50 - Wammes, in the back!

yeah, all those creepy mustaches And those large glasses, thankfully those days are over now..

Wow! Nostalgia alert! At first I didn’t remember that I was there plugging the Foundation II release and Pro-Tracker! Lots and lots of familiar faces, can’t remember the names… Great footage, thanx!

This is making me very nostalgic… those times will never return I guess. Good old days .

yeah, all those creepy mustaches And those large glasses, thankfully those days are over now..

I haven't seen almost anyone since those days. So I still remember them (including you) as the funny looking guys from way back.

[xx: xx] Remco Schrijvers showing something
[xx: xx] Richard Stoffe(r/l)s looking at quarth iirc

Hm, it is embarrassing indeed to see yourself back at less than half your current age, especially considering the hairstyles that were fashionable back then. It's clear the 80s didn't stop immediately. I spotted myself walking with Nico Lubbers of Station and fellow Impact member Maurice or Michel (nicks Metalslave and Powerrun... the image isn't clear enough to distinguish one twin brother from the other after all this time; but I suspect it's Michel) from 5:42 to 5:45 - we're coming through that doorway. And since this is our first major event, it's very nice to see the Impact booth back at the time we released Impaccen & Wegwezen (including a Syntax Error in some versions ) and Musix Disk 1, of which you can see the screenshots in the video. At 12:04 you can see, from left to right, Patrick (nick Powerslave), Martin (nick Snakebyte) and again either Maurice or Michel, with Ben (BDD) standing behind him with his arms folded. At 12:05 at least both Maurice and Michel are in the picture, and I'm scratching myself behind them, doing nothing in particular at 12:06. It's a good thing the image cuts back to the introscroll of Musix Disk 1 right after.

Very cool to see this again! Now, please remove it.

I don't even remember being there, but I was. I even think I was on the video. At least my name was. Also seen some guys of MSX Club Gouda 'round 11:30: At least I recognised Gert de Boom, Henny van Norden, Patrick van Norden and Adri de Boom... And that playboy strippoker thingie was released back then, already?. Wow. Im getting really old...

My first MSX fair that I can remember was Til92, to be precise: at Fony's booth with RMF Megademo #1, and some birdspider, yuk, ... I hate arachnids ._.

Afaik Tilburg has always been a bit bigger, but both were still large gyms. One year, I believe Til93, there was even an extra tent attached. Current fairs are -in their totality- about one small row of those old fairs.

I agree. Tilburg 92/93 were massive.

To poke: It was already clear that (most) companies would not support MSX anymore by the end of the 1980s. What happened in the Netherlands during the 1990s was quite unique and very impressive.

Nah, not just tracking. Scenes of all computers generally emerged from cracking games.. The first ever scrolltext I've seen was that Starcracks intro of SD-Snatcher. I guess the demo 'Lightning' must also be one of the first real demodisks/megademos. There were also Xelasoft/Merlasoft SCC demos like AstroStar, which contained some sinusing scrolltext. And on those fairs were not just sceners you know, also hardware ppl who sold stuff, people with a large bag o' PD software, ppl who made magazines, ppl who made games, ppl who sold a utility, ppl from some club who had their activities displayed, ppl who made a diskmagazine, ppl/organizations who imported Japanese games. etc. etc.
If you browse through Clubguide/Genic Picturedisks1..11 and then the Sunrise Picturedisks, then you've got a good idea about the rise and decline of the MSX scene. Another obvious thing you can notice on those disks is when trackers became available, as at a certain early point there was none, and coders were forced to rip Japanese game music..

@Latok, Snout: thanks, I'm not that worried; if I was, I would never have pointed out where to find me. And nice to know that we were not just called impact but actually made one...

And speaking on the importance of trackers: I think that, generally speaking, the demo scene took off after some decent tools became available, enabling people who were not (yet) master coders to produce something worthwhile - at least that's how it worked for us. And coders didn't have to start from scratch or use ripped music (Station for example also started using Soundtracker as soon as it was available, rather than coding their own replayer - before that time, they used ripped T&E music). There were plenty of good drawing and graphics programmes around, but FAC Soundtracker 1 was the first music programme that came with a replayer. I also think it only really became "not done" to used ripped graphics and music once proper tools were available to produce your own.

@wolf_: Sorry, forgot to mention that; my nick was Mirage.

Um... I thought they were already in there. Let me check... Yep! 5 Musix disks, 2 House disks, Impaccen & Wegwezen, Impaccable and The Ant Demo. As far as I can tell, only the SCC Musix disk that was made somewhere in between is missing...

I agree. Tilburg 92/93 were massive.

To poke: It was already clear that (most) companies would not support MSX anymore by the end of the 1980s. What happened in the Netherlands during the 1990s was quite unique and very impressive.

That's true. In the penultimate issue (November 1991) of the Spanish MSX magazine MSX Club it was suggested that Spanish people could organize a trip to The Netherlands to visit one of the multiple MSX fairs that were held there. Unfortunately the last issue of MSX Club -the only MSX magazine available in kiosks all over Spain back then- was the one of December 1991 and nothing could be arranged (most Spanish MSX users dropped the MSX scene after the disappearance of MSX Club). MSX Club passed the baton to Hnostar, a fanzine that was only distributed by mail. First meetings here were the well-known user meetings in Barcelona (RUs) but I don't know when they started.

Watching the Zandvoort 1991 video I realise that those meetings were like the ones that are held nowadays; I mean that all groups present there were amateur (no big companies like Philips nor any sw houses).

Watching the Zandvoort 1991 video I realise that those meetings were like the ones that are held nowadays; I mean that all groups present there were amateur (no big companies like Philips nor any sw houses).

AFAIK. The MSX-fairs have always been an 'amateur' thing.

Hahah... years ago that (okay, and over half a year late reacting). I remember bug fixing at the fair alright, never thought someone would manage to capture it on tape. It was fun though.

Hahah.. not exactly a frequent visitor, but yep