KrakenGraph Lite - V9990 cartridge by MSXCalamar

KrakenGraph Lite - V9990 cartridge by MSXCalamar

بواسطة Pac بتاريخ 27-03-2018, 19:29
المناقشة: Development
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Time to talk about KrakenGraph Lite, a V9990 cartridge developed by MSXCalamar. Although it seems this is a recent project, in fact it was already announced a year and half ago.

Today we could say that this new piece of hardware is closer to becoming a reality. As they explain, the current prototype board most probably will be the last version before the mass production.

It's expected to make official announcement at the next 53rd MSX meeting in Barcelona next June.

Relevant link: KrakenGraph Lite (Spanish language)

التعليقات (41)

بواسطة Grauw

Ascended (9748)

صورة Grauw

28-03-2018, 00:20

It’d be cool to see superimposing in the feature list, but it looks snazzy either way! Might want to get one of these, since my original Graphics9000 is pretty old…

بواسطة alexito

Paladin (704)

صورة alexito

28-03-2018, 00:41

Will be nice if they make Super Impose Capability for sure.

check the Super Impose on Nms8280 and Playsoniq VDP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i33vp3jukMQ&t=86s

بواسطة mariocavalcanti

Expert (92)

صورة mariocavalcanti

29-03-2018, 01:05

Very good to see it is coming! I like this part: "the current prototype board most probably will be the last version before the mass production." Tongue

بواسطة N.I

Master (172)

صورة N.I

29-03-2018, 07:41

Amazing news! V9990 chips are sitting in various places.

بواسطة msd

Paragon (1455)

صورة msd

29-03-2018, 16:22

Still can get those chips , wonder how many chips where produced

بواسطة Ivan

Ascended (9281)

صورة Ivan

29-03-2018, 17:57

And it will be incredibly cheap: around €60.

بواسطة Meits

Scribe (6350)

صورة Meits

29-03-2018, 19:03

What makes it "lite"? Does it miss features? I might want one, but only if it's 100% GFX9000 compatible.

بواسطة Pac

Guardian (6197)

صورة Pac

29-03-2018, 19:43

I assume it is related to the size.

بواسطة syn

Paragon (2042)

صورة syn

29-03-2018, 23:29

Ivan wrote:

And it will be incredibly cheap: around €60.

wow no reason not to get one then!

بواسطة keith56

Master (159)

صورة keith56

30-03-2018, 06:01

If this is compatible with the technobytes model, with a lower cost, then this is excellent news! (not that I'm saying I think the technobytes one is overpriced)

the V9990 is an amazing bit of kit... and anything that gets it into the hands of more MSX owners is great for the MSX community!

بواسطة Robby

Master (203)

صورة Robby

30-03-2018, 15:55

I am curious if they can really deliver it for that announced price of approx 60e. Is already a working prototype available?
And will it include casing?

بواسطة odaman68000

Rookie (22)

صورة odaman68000

31-03-2018, 10:48

Wow, I want to purchase it!! Smile

بواسطة Manel46

Hero (621)

صورة Manel46

01-04-2018, 17:06

Meits wrote:

What makes it "lite"? Does it miss features? I might want one, but only if it's 100% GFX9000 compatible.

KrakenGraph Lite, in MRC, is 100% compatible with the GFX9000.
But also the superimpose function.

بواسطة Grauw

Ascended (9748)

صورة Grauw

01-04-2018, 17:19

Manel46: Are you now saying that it has a superimpose function, or that you want it? Smile

بواسطة Manel46

Hero (621)

صورة Manel46

01-04-2018, 17:56

That has it, Grauw. I'm sorry for my English.
These days Germán is on vacation. Next week will answer all your questions here

بواسطة syn

Paragon (2042)

صورة syn

01-04-2018, 18:55

wtf the lite also has super impose? nice!!! Wink

بواسطة Grauw

Ascended (9748)

صورة Grauw

01-04-2018, 19:42

In that case it’s definitely a guaranteed buy from me Big smile. I hope it’s Video9000 compatible? Looking forward to Germán to return from his vacation Smile.

بواسطة Pencioner

Scribe (1372)

صورة Pencioner

02-04-2018, 00:07

Superimpose... uhmmm unbelieviable. Really-really? You're the best! Smile

بواسطة tvalenca

Paladin (747)

صورة tvalenca

04-04-2018, 19:35

judging by PCB layout, it doesn't look like to have any genlock capabilities, so it can't superimpose on any video signal.

بواسطة syn

Paragon (2042)

صورة syn

04-04-2018, 21:41

Iirc the superimpose wasnt even guaranteed for the normal /big krakengraph (afaik they said they would look at it). Indeed, i don't see room for a video input although im not at all a hardware expert. Tongue

بواسطة MSX Calamar

Resident (62)

صورة MSX Calamar

05-04-2018, 13:56

Hello

This is MSX Calamar.

KrakenGraph Lite is compatible with GFX9000/PowerGraph. Same functions in a Konami case.
KrakenGraph (full version coming late 2018) includes superimpose function, also in a Konami case.

Both versions come with casing, box and user guide. Also with free game.

بواسطة Grauw

Ascended (9748)

صورة Grauw

05-04-2018, 14:14

Very awesome, I’m going to eagerly await the KrakenGraph full then!! A superimpose function is the main Gfx9000 feature I’m still wishing for!

About my earlier question, will the superimpose function be Video9000 compatible? The Video9000 has a register to select the video signal source, so that you don’t get presented with a blank screen until the V9990 is initialised for superimposing. This is also supported in openMSX. Documentation is here, see sections 5 (GEN and TRAN bits), 7 and 9.

بواسطة Pac

Guardian (6197)

صورة Pac

05-04-2018, 20:39

Grauw wrote:

Very awesome, I’m going to eagerly await the KrakenGraph full then!! A superimpose function is the main Gfx9000 feature I’m still wishing for!

I wonder which applications you have in mind... Up to now I don't see any to go for the full version... just asking Wink

بواسطة syn

Paragon (2042)

صورة syn

05-04-2018, 21:32

Very nice to hear about the full version getting super impose!

بواسطة Manuel

Ascended (17753)

صورة Manuel

05-04-2018, 22:02

It can save you 2 monitors or a switching device if you could superimpose on top of the normal MSX image Tongue

بواسطة MSX Calamar

Resident (62)

صورة MSX Calamar

06-04-2018, 12:02

Yes, it will be Video9000 compatible with superimpose function. Same register to select the video signal. But, only RGB input.

بواسطة MSX Calamar

Resident (62)

صورة MSX Calamar

06-04-2018, 12:03

You can mix v9990 video with VDP video signal on same TV

بواسطة Grauw

Ascended (9748)

صورة Grauw

06-04-2018, 14:40

@MSXCalamar Awesome! I’m psyched! Can’t wait! Big smile

@PAC Convenience mostly, single monitor setup. I also see some interesting possibilities for creating games with optional extra features, e.g. using the MSX VDP as an extra parallax background, or using the V9990 as an optional front layer for extra visual effects.

بواسطة Pac

Guardian (6197)

صورة Pac

06-04-2018, 16:23

True, I didn't realize the possibility of a single monitor.

بواسطة MSX Calamar

Resident (62)

صورة MSX Calamar

09-04-2018, 11:50

بواسطة Grauw

Ascended (9748)

صورة Grauw

09-04-2018, 13:03

Is that a Sony Playstation RGB connector?

Smart, since those cables are easily available!

بواسطة MSX Calamar

Resident (62)

صورة MSX Calamar

10-04-2018, 08:53

Grauw wrote:

Is that a Sony Playstation RGB connector?

Smart, since those cables are easily available!

Yes! Easily avaliable and cheap cables!

بواسطة Grauw

Ascended (9748)

صورة Grauw

22-05-2019, 10:43

MSX Calamar wrote:

Hello

This is MSX Calamar.

KrakenGraph Lite is compatible with GFX9000/PowerGraph. Same functions in a Konami case.
KrakenGraph (full version coming late 2018) includes superimpose function, also in a Konami case.

Both versions come with casing, box and user guide. Also with free game.

Is that full version with superimpose function still coming? I hope so!

بواسطة Robby

Master (203)

صورة Robby

28-05-2019, 10:06

And/or is de Lite version already released for sale?

بواسطة MSX Calamar

Resident (62)

صورة MSX Calamar

28-05-2019, 11:09

Robby wrote:

And/or is de Lite version already released for sale?

Not yet.
I've been working on the Wozblaster Enhanced ( http://www.msxcalamar.com/catalog/index.php?id_product=32&co... ).

Only few details of KrakenGraph Lite to be finished this summer (I hope).

بواسطة sunn

Resident (44)

صورة sunn

03-12-2019, 13:24

Any news from this wonderful cart?

بواسطة decola

Supporter (2)

صورة decola

19-06-2020, 00:03

Still not available?

بواسطة gdx

Enlighted (4260)

صورة gdx

15-04-2021, 02:07

What happened to this project?

بواسطة psxdev

Resident (45)

صورة psxdev

15-04-2021, 19:27

بواسطة bsittler

Master (173)

صورة bsittler

16-04-2021, 16:40

What is the 3.5mm jack for? Is that RGBS in for superimpose?

Or is it audio out to make it easy to connect a second TV input to this without an audio splitter from the machine's main output?

If superimpose is indeed implemented, is there RGBS input on some pins of the video connector, or elsewhere? Or is superimpose input a different format?

Or is it just superimpose-capable output, where it defaults to black screen signal instead of white when the V9990 is not used so it can be "under" another VDP's signal as a background?

بواسطة sdsnatcher73

Paragon (1725)

صورة sdsnatcher73

16-04-2021, 17:19

It is audio in (from your MSX) and it is then combined to the PlayStation compatible output.