Need asm-source of a good modplayer..

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بواسطة RyJuZo

Master (236)

صورة RyJuZo

15-10-2008, 17:25

Hi

our Turbo-R/Moonsound showcase game Ninja Turtles needs music....

After fiddeling with mbwave for a while...we came to the conclusion we dont like it. sorry Crying
Mainly because of the short patterns (16 lines) and some missing ffx...

So we're thinking of using a modplayer instead.

So instead of re-inventing the wheel (like I usually do) and built one from scratch , maybe someone here has a good starting point for me.

I allready checked out mpcom8 on http://www.faq.msxnet.org/opl4.html but the asm included in the attached file looks corrupted so it's of no use.

So does any one have a uncorrupted version or something else please..

thx...

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بواسطة wolf_

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صورة wolf_

15-10-2008, 17:35

There are a few problems with MOD vs Moonsound. The mod format has effects like pitchbend, vibrato, amp mod ('tremolo' in MOD terminology) and such. If you want to support those per int then it'll cost you some cpu time. The Moonsound has vibrato, 'tremolo' available in its hardware, but those are probably not very compatible with the values given in MOD format trackers. Also, there's a distinctive difference between instrument definitions within the Moonsound and the more software-based mod format. I think you should perhaps talk to msd for a while, he knows the Moonsound and the players like his own pocket.

btw, MBWave certainly isn't always a joy to work with, but it can't be *that* bad, no? Tongue

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Paragon (1510)

صورة msd

15-10-2008, 18:53

I never heard any mod files sound better than good mbwave tracks. Mod is a different in quite some ways. What kind of ffx are you missing?

بواسطة wolf_

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صورة wolf_

15-10-2008, 19:33

RyJuZo: keep in mind that with the ROM tones about everything will sound like an 80's keyboard from Toys R Us, what you want are custom instruments. While I don't exactly know what you or your kids have been trying to do with MB-Wave, I'm sure it's possible to create decent tracks with it. (been there, done that ^_^) There are quite a few things you'd have the right to complain about, but the pattern length is a bit non-sense making here. Tongue

بواسطة RyJuZo

Master (236)

صورة RyJuZo

15-10-2008, 21:04

Well our music genius has for example created a beautiful title-song for Knightmare 3 (which plays if moonsound is detected else SCC). here is a taste : msxsite.ryan-da-bass-man.com/KN3_TITLE_JUSTATASTE.zip
it's a .s3m song....

and this is just a sample of the song, the total song counts 80 tracks...of patterns of 64 lines....so if done in mbwave ...then it would have 4*80=320 tracks !!!

And he can't get the same sfx with mbwave....so the song sounds completely different...

but if somebody can enlighten us??? then by all means...

بواسطة wolf_

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صورة wolf_

15-10-2008, 21:11

mm, just listened to it. Given that you have 640KB S-RAM in your Moonsound (and assume at least that amount in the final specs towards your customers) this one should be a cookie to do in MB-Wave..

Oh, and it'll sound 10x as good on a Moonsound as well, but hey.. details.. Tongue

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Paragon (1510)

صورة msd

15-10-2008, 21:14

ah. S3M. That's not mod Tongue

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Paragon (1510)

صورة msd

15-10-2008, 21:16

What kind of fx does he need?

بواسطة wolf_

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صورة wolf_

15-10-2008, 21:17

I say Fairfax: Requiem for lost OPL4 songs

I'll bet you that this one runs circles around most S3M's you can show me from any PC scener from the mid PC demo era.

-> it's all plain MB-Wave, nothing else!

بواسطة RyJuZo

Master (236)

صورة RyJuZo

15-10-2008, 21:26

mm, just listened to it. Given that you have 640KB S-RAM in your Moonsound (and assume at least that amount in the final specs towards your customers) this one should be a cookie to do in MB-Wave..

Oh, and it'll sound 10x as good on a Moonsound as well, but hey.. details.. Tongue

My Moonsound has indeed 1024kb.

well Renzo Has been trying to convert it but he's not happy at all with the results....that's why I'm trying to find a modplayer..which I could then enhance to do all sfx...

so maybe you can give some tips or something on mbwave?

بواسطة hap

Paragon (2042)

صورة hap

15-10-2008, 21:27

your "music genius"? Smile
It's fountain.mod, Fountain of Sighs, by #unreal/pulse, 1995.

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