Fun Idea for the fair in Nijmegen in january...

صفحة 3/6
1 | 2 | | 4 | 5 | 6

بواسطة Low_Profile

Champion (425)

صورة Low_Profile

29-10-2008, 15:14

Having a human drummer would really be best.

Synchronizing 'real' musicians with a synthetic beat is much, much harder, whether using click-track or not.

I dunno about that... I can fairly play along a lead to an instrumental piece, even while my keyboard skills are near zero Wink
It's also easy to rehearse by yourself... just loop the song indefinitely and keep playing until you got it right. Then again, a skilled guitar player shouldn't take too long to memorize a melody.

But I think it's going to be hard to find 3 or 4 extra people to form a band for that occasion anyway.

بواسطة JohnHassink

Ambassador (5655)

صورة JohnHassink

29-10-2008, 15:16

Yes, with 1 person it's quite doable.
With 2 it gets harder, and with more than 2 you need some really skilled, tightly playing musicians to make it sound good.

بواسطة RyJuZo

Master (236)

صورة RyJuZo

29-10-2008, 16:56

But I think it's going to be hard to find 3 or 4 extra people to form a band for that occasion anyway.

keep thinking positive....

there's allways...hope Wink

بواسطة RyJuZo

Master (236)

صورة RyJuZo

29-10-2008, 17:02

Having a human drummer would really be best

yeah...I'd rather have a real drummer too...but they R very hard too find one with free time unfortunately...

I know a couple but they all play in two or more bands so have no time...

so if we really can't find a drummer we might be forced to convert a msx-computer into a drum-machine...and LIVE is no more ! Crying

but I still have good hope..Big smile

بواسطة JohnHassink

Ambassador (5655)

صورة JohnHassink

29-10-2008, 17:16

Well, I do know some good drummers / percussionists, but I'm afraid they lack the affinity with MSX gametunes...

Maybe using an MSX machine with FM-Pac or OPL4 for drums is indeed the best way to go in case we can't get a drummer.
Easier to record as well, since it'd probably go through a PA system.

بواسطة wolf_

Ambassador_ (10088)

صورة wolf_

29-10-2008, 18:04

Well lads, let's keep the focus on a few things here:

If you want a uniform sound, in which a synth sounds in balance with a guitar and drumset (and other instruments) then you'll need a mixer and PA. There's always some crosstalk in the hall between the PA signal and the direct instrument signal so mixing it usually means amplifying the soft instruments. So, no matter how or what: you'll need a mixer and a PA. This means you also need microphones for the drumkit.

Speaking about a drumkit, you'll be needing someone who can actually transport such a drumkit. Do you realize the size of a drumkit? Tongue

If you're going to hire non-MSX'ians, keep in mind they may just not be interested in unpaid playing for a room full o' nerds who're otherwise disturbing the 'concert' with their ugly psg blasts and fm-pac clarinets anyway. Face

I think, after an evening of brainstorming, I could list even more reasons why this whole idea is noble but quite deemed to fail.. Tongue

The best option, I think, is: 1 or 2 guitar players (e.g. bass and lead/chord) and 2 synths. One for strings, one for other things (woodwinds, brass, effects). Skip the drums, you won't be able to get them right. Furthermore you need a compact mixer, such as a cheap Behringer to which you can connect 2 stereo devices and 2 mono devices. Based on the model, you get effects such as reverb you can apply on the guitars. You may only need a moderate PA system for that.

Then, play the ballads, the slow stuff etc. I could give hints about the repertoire suitable for such a band.

I wouldn't count on anything more than that if you want to have a reasonable success.

بواسطة RyJuZo

Master (236)

صورة RyJuZo

29-10-2008, 18:48

Well lads, let's keep the focus on a few things here:

If you want a uniform sound, in which a synth sounds in balance with a guitar and drumset (and other instruments) then you'll need a mixer and PA. There's always some crosstalk in the hall between the PA signal and the direct instrument signal so mixing it usually means amplifying the soft instruments. So, no matter how or what: you'll need a mixer and a PA. This means you also need microphones for the drumkit.

I have drum-mics in my arsenal...so if somebody has his own drumkit...I'll bring them


Speaking about a drumkit, you'll be needing someone who can actually transport such a drumkit. Do you realize the size of a drumkit? Tongue

only basics are needed: kick,snare,hihat,crash cymbal...fit's into a stationcar...done it before..

And if worst comes to shove I have a electronic drumkit...it's not ROLAND quality but it will do...
so only need someone to play them...


If you're going to hire non-MSX'ians, keep in mind they may just not be interested in unpaid playing for a room full o' nerds who're otherwise disturbing the 'concert' with their ugly psg blasts and fm-pac clarinets anyway. Face

I'd rather have someone from the community as well...


I think, after an evening of brainstorming, I could list even more reasons why this whole idea is noble but quite deemed to fail.. Tongue

I think it will be ok...it does not have to be a WORLD CLASS performance...


The best option, I think, is: 1 or 2 guitar players (e.g. bass and lead/chord) and 2 synths. One for strings, one for other things (woodwinds, brass, effects). Skip the drums, you won't be able to get them right. Furthermore you need a compact mixer, such as a cheap Behringer to which you can connect 2 stereo devices and 2 mono devices. Based on the model, you get effects such as reverb you can apply on the guitars. You may only need a moderate PA system for that.

I have a 8 chn stereomixer (Behringer) and a 16 chn PA (PHONIC.)..
top it of with some 15" 400 WATT PHONIC SPEAKERS...and I think we're almost there... Tongue
(I do have to check if I have enough cables.... hehe)


Then, play the ballads, the slow stuff etc. I could give hints about the repertoire suitable for such a band.

I wouldn't count on anything more than that if you want to have a reasonable success.

Dont agree that only playing ballads is our only option..

for example, I have been playing along with Jorito's version of Maze of Galious WORLD tune and it's very very doable..
Jorito has reduced the tempo a bit and it sounds cool.....I could even throw in some slap-funky-bass-lines...

so I dont know why we couldn't do the same with other tunes...Big smile

بواسطة JohnHassink

Ambassador (5655)

صورة JohnHassink

29-10-2008, 18:53

For a real drumkit we'd need 4, 5 microphones or so, unless every piece of the kit is triggered ofcourse.
This all adds to the hassle of actually bringing and assembling such a drumkit.

An electronic drumkit would eliminate a lot of problems.

I don't think hiring musicians is an option; we'll probably have to spend ca$h on rent of a decent PA system anyway.

If the bass & guitar wouldn't go through dedicated amplifiers but through the PA as well, we might actually need a person who knows what he/she is doing controlling the mixer.

2 synths is probably best.

بواسطة RyJuZo

Master (236)

صورة RyJuZo

29-10-2008, 18:58

For a real drumkit we'd need 4, 5 microphones or so, unless every piece of the kit is triggered ofcourse.

check !


An electronic drumkit would eliminate a lot of problems.

check !

I don't think hiring musicians is an option; we'll probably have to spend ca$h on rent of a decent PA system anyway.

I just happen to have one...so...check !


If the bass & guitar wouldn't go through dedicated amplifiers but through the PA as well, we might actually need a person who knows what he/she is doing controlling the mixer.

Sound guy is always handy...

بواسطة wolf_

Ambassador_ (10088)

صورة wolf_

29-10-2008, 19:02

we'll probably have to spend ca$h on rent of a decent PA system anyway.
The venue has a PA system

صفحة 3/6
1 | 2 | | 4 | 5 | 6