What's Konami's best platform game on MSX?

Contra (6 التصويت) 6.0%
The Goonies (3 التصويت) 3.0%
King's Valley 1/2 (14 التصويت) 14.0%
The Maze of Galious (32 التصويت) 32.0%
The Treasure of Usas (32 التصويت) 32.0%
Vampire Killer (13 التصويت) 13.0%
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بواسطة hap

Paragon (2027)

صورة hap

20-04-2012, 17:41

Where's Magical Tree? Tongue
Not counting the good memories and nostalgia, I voted for Maze of Galious instead.

بواسطة JohnHassink

Ambassador (5441)

صورة JohnHassink

20-04-2012, 18:01

Treasure of Usas because it's so original and has one of the best 8-bit soundtracks ever.

بواسطة Jorito

Mr. Ambassadors (1762)

صورة Jorito

20-04-2012, 19:09

What John said.

بواسطة Meits

Scribe (5822)

صورة Meits

20-04-2012, 19:11

Contra, cuz it's the only one of them I can actually finish...

بواسطة Akiguchi

Hero (608)

صورة Akiguchi

20-04-2012, 20:30

Maze of Galious of course because of the nostalgia and the sense of wonder and awe when exploring the castle. It feels a lot more free and exciting than most of the other platforms even on any other computer or console. Nothing beats the feeling to track down all those items at several nice and gloomy locations within the castle.

بواسطة ray2day

Champion (477)

صورة ray2day

20-04-2012, 20:59

For a 'platform' game I would say The Treasure of Usas; from the games mentioned I think it is the game with the best graphics, music and gameplay. What depends on gameplay -and that is what I think what makes a good platform game- Goonies and Vampire Killer are great also.

بواسطة javilevel

Expert (99)

صورة javilevel

20-04-2012, 22:52

King's Valley its more puzle than platform game, why is here?

بواسطة hap

Paragon (2027)

صورة hap

20-04-2012, 23:04

It's both platform and puzzle, so why not?
Contra is also more shooter than platform.

بواسطة cklayman

Champion (297)

صورة cklayman

20-04-2012, 23:19

Vampire Killer because of its atmosphere.

بواسطة LeandroCorreia

Paladin (951)

صورة LeandroCorreia

20-04-2012, 23:23

Maze of Galious. Days of exploration that really kept my attention. Personally I'd not imagine The Goonies below Contra in the rank. Contra is one of the few Konami MSX games that I don't like to play.

بواسطة mth

Champion (493)

صورة mth

20-04-2012, 23:34

King's Valley 2 is the only one of the mentioned games that I finished without cheating. Like javilevel, King's Valley 2 is for me more a puzzle game than a platform game, although the first King's Valley has more emphasis on the platform elements.

I think I spent the most hours on Maze of Galious. It has a very nice mix of free exploring in the castle and linear progress in the worlds. I remember drawing a map of the castle and then seeing that the castle actually had a castle shape as well.

Although Usas is very pretty and has good music, the game play never really worked for me. I always got so frustrated after a while that I stopped playing and therefore never got far in this game.

بواسطة wolf_

Ambassador_ (9801)

صورة wolf_

21-04-2012, 01:22

I think the key difference between KV1/2 and the other platform games is that the other games are platform adventures, while KV1/2 are puzzles using platform gameplay - which makes it a platform game.

بواسطة ro

Guardian (4164)

صورة ro

21-04-2012, 10:02

MOG by far. Exploring the dark corners of the castle to get that needed item, slaying hundreds of enemies, collect them coins and arrows, slaying the very, very, very breathtaking bosses. I'm still in awe with MOG. How can it not be the best platformer ever!?

Popolon for president.

بواسطة Manuel

Ascended (16436)

صورة Manuel

21-04-2012, 13:05

Completely agree with ro!

بواسطة Manuel

Ascended (16436)

صورة Manuel

21-04-2012, 19:10

< n i t p i c k > it's Uşas, not Usas < / n i t p i c k >

بواسطة OeiOeiVogeltje

Paragon (1339)

صورة OeiOeiVogeltje

21-04-2012, 18:54

ja man
not Usas

بواسطة wolf_

Ambassador_ (9801)

صورة wolf_

21-04-2012, 18:59

بواسطة LeandroCorreia

Paladin (951)

صورة LeandroCorreia

21-04-2012, 20:06

I agree with Ro too. MOG was such a good game that its spirit was reproduced in Castlevania Symphony of the Night.

بواسطة WORP3

Paladin (806)

صورة WORP3

21-04-2012, 20:06

Wow, how should I be able to decide between usas, vampire and maze of galious, they are all three very good !
But if I must I will go for the Maze of Galious as i've got some very nice memories playing it Wink

بواسطة max_iwamoto

Champion (478)

صورة max_iwamoto

22-04-2012, 06:22

Vampire Killer was the first screen 5 Konami game that I ever played. I voted it. I love Usas too, of course. And I don't understand why Hinotori is not in the list? It's my second favorite after Vampire Killer.

بواسطة Akiguchi

Hero (608)

صورة Akiguchi

22-04-2012, 08:16

max: Isn't Hinotori more of a shooter than a platform game?

بواسطة Manuel

Ascended (16436)

صورة Manuel

22-04-2012, 09:36

max_iwamoto: tell us about the platforms in Hinotori ;-)

بواسطة benedick

Resident (36)

صورة benedick

22-04-2012, 13:00

MOG for its castle, music, enemies, bosses, items...

It's hard but, can you find anything that could be improved in MOG?
Sure adding the ability to save the game instead of using the long passwords, but what esle?

بواسطة Rataplan

Master (225)

صورة Rataplan

22-04-2012, 13:14

Hard choice but I choose Vampire Killer over MOG. Though technically and maybe even gameplay-wise MOG ranks higer in my list and being a MSX1 game, I find myself playing Vampire Killer more often than MOG. It's just a bit more accessible for me. Considering Vampire Killer was released in 1986 as the first MSX2 Konami (if my memory seves me well) with such great graphics, gameplay and great music, it deserves my vote.

Usas is a great game too, but gameplay wise to repetitive to me. Never found it inspiring enough to finish it until a few year ago (and cheating like hell to achieve it too Wink)

بواسطة edoz

Prophet (2248)

صورة edoz

23-04-2012, 08:54

MOG! Maybe it's nice to make this game again, but now for GFX9000 Wink Like the one for the PC Wink

بواسطة wolf_

Ambassador_ (9801)

صورة wolf_

23-04-2012, 12:43

I'm more a Usas person. MoG never managed to keep my attention for more than five minutes.

بواسطة Huey

Prophet (2650)

صورة Huey

23-04-2012, 14:43

wolf_ wrote:

I'm more a Usas person. MoG never managed to keep my attention for more than five minutes.

Same here. I never got myself to play it longer than 15 minutes.
King's Valley 2 on the other hand is one of the best (if not the best) puzzle plat-formers known to mankind. I played the game for hours and hours in my childhood.

بواسطة Manuel

Ascended (16436)

صورة Manuel

23-04-2012, 22:24

You might be an Usas person, but Uşas was the first MSX cart I owned, bought together with Metal Gear, both on a Tilburg fair (1994, I think). At that time, I had never played any of these two games before.

However, MoG is the first MSX cartridge game I ever played (that was in 1989 I think). And I played it for hundreds and hundreds of hours, I think. Oh yeah... As they say: Best. Game. Ever.

بواسطة anonymous

incognito ergo sum (109)

صورة anonymous

24-04-2012, 03:15

Must say I found it totally awesome when I managed to make the first boss appear in MoG.
But after beating that one, somehow I just didn't feel like playing it further much. Ofcourse that's most certainly not because there'd be something wrong with the game, since nothing is, really. Smile

بواسطة Manuel

Ascended (16436)

صورة Manuel

25-04-2012, 22:30

So, I'm jealous... you can play the game all over again without knowing what's coming exactly!

بواسطة benedick

Resident (36)

صورة benedick

01-05-2012, 17:01

About the 1st boss of MOG... I was too young when I first got MOG and I didn't have a clue about the password system; I've killed that boss more than any other boss of any other game. I remember pluging the computer just for 10 minutes break, making the run through the first world, killing the giant skeleton and closing the computer totally satisfied. Awesome!

بواسطة Jorito

Mr. Ambassadors (1762)

صورة Jorito

01-05-2012, 18:08

LOL!

بواسطة Gradius2

Hero (575)

صورة Gradius2

04-05-2012, 17:58

MOG was the best, super good for a MSX1, I remember when I finished the game!

USAS would pissed everyone who watched that kind of ending!

بواسطة snout

Ascended (15187)

صورة snout

04-05-2012, 18:18

Wouldn't it be great if someone would discover there actually was a happy ending to Usas as well, related to something at least as ridiculous as pausing the game once throughout the entire game? ^_^

بواسطة snout

Ascended (15187)

صورة snout

04-05-2012, 18:23

بواسطة Gradius2

Hero (575)

صورة Gradius2

06-05-2012, 16:13

Usas ending was a super dark joke, so dark isn't funny at all.

"Something good will happen" YEAH RIGHT!

بواسطة Konamito

Paragon (1033)

صورة Konamito

15-05-2012, 01:05

No doubt: The Maze of Galious Wink

بواسطة Manuel

Ascended (16436)

صورة Manuel

15-05-2012, 20:05

Konamito: vote on the new poll then!