What's up with these 'DSK-managers'

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Por snout

Ascended (15187)

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19-12-2003, 14:53

Frankly, I use the all-purpose image manager 'WinImage', which is not free, but it does work. It would be great to have a DSKmanagers with the capabilities of WinImage, but with a little more speed and MSX compatible bootsectors (and an option to choose between DOS1 and DOS2 bootsectors Tongue).

Por Arjan

Paladin (766)

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19-12-2003, 16:11

DskExplorer has some bug in it which causes the files to be unusable if the archive bit of the file to add wasn't set. Solution: set archive bit! This caused some major headaches for me too Crying

Por anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

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19-12-2003, 16:16

If you know something about MSX, you'd be able to work a commandline. So the ancient RDDSK.EXE and WRDSK.EXE should be all you need.

Por mars2000you

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19-12-2003, 17:14

I really don't understand this thread.

I use Win98SE and DiskManager. Every disk image that I create with this tool works perfect with ALL emulators, including NLMSX, my preferred emulator, in any configuration

Just a remark : don't put the MSX-DOS 2 files on the dsk image if this is not really necessary .... and if you prefer MSX-DOS22, then you must also insert the DOS22 rom image in a virtual caetridge slot of the emulator if the emulator is in MSX2 or 2+ configuration

Of course, a Turbo-R config is more easy with MSX-DOS23 as the rom part of DOS 23 is already in the config ! But in this case, don't forget that the disk image format is different ... The solution : a copy of a DOS23 formatted image, kill all existing files and replace them by the files of your choice by using DiskManager !

So, where's the problem ? Question

Por Latok

msx guru (3867)

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19-12-2003, 20:55

Well, I believe Arjan just gave the answer. And indeed, it works. When setting the Archive bit, the files become readable.

Por Arjan

Paladin (766)

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19-12-2003, 21:16

btw, this is actually a bug in DskExplorer. MSX itself doesn't care about the archive bit.

Por Latok

msx guru (3867)

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20-12-2003, 00:37

I have just created a DSK-image using Diskmanager. It's real fun. I've copied both msxdos1 and msxdos2 systemfiles to the image. In DOS1, after a DIR, all the files are being displayed, but they can't be executed (I DO have given them an Archive attribute). They seem empty. In DOS2, after a DIR, only the systemfiles (both msxdos1 and msxdos2) are being displayed but not the actual demo files. When I type 'snow.com', the demo IS being executed though! And in BASIC, after a 'Files', the files do appear and are usable.

So.....I'm going to find myself another Diskmanager than DiskManager and DskExplorer.

Por Latok

msx guru (3867)

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20-12-2003, 01:09

Sorry, but I'ma have to agree with Ro here. You guys *ARE* err... Not too bright. Okay, here's how it works...

1) Get NLMSX 0.48 (You prolly have it)
2) Get the Diskmanager the guy from RuMSX made, it's hip...
3) Make a new disk like Ro said, dump your files on it.
4) SAVE the changes you made to the disk.
5) CLOSE the disk manager (Or at least make SURE you closed the file)

And that's it, always has worked, always will work... If this does not work for you, you must have the special BillGatesReallyHatesYou Windows version that doesn't allow you to make .dsk images. If that is the case, tell me where to download the files and where to mail de .dsk image and I'll mail it to you. (I'll even test it first.)

Good luck,

Tobes

P.S. Don't be stubborn, try again and follow ALL the steps.
1. Got it
2. Have it
3. Yep, did it
4. Done
5. First closed the file, then the DiskManager

I decided to put the created diskimage up for download. When I boot this image in NLMSX configured as MSX2 and I do a DIR in DOS1, I do see the files. I can't boot them though. They seem empty. Same goes for BASIC. They're simply not usable.

Here's the diskimage I created

Por Latok

msx guru (3867)

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20-12-2003, 01:14

Well, adding msxdos2.sys and command2.com to this diskimage really gives a cool effect. In DOS2, after a DIR, you will only see the systemfiles, but you CAN boot the not visible files now. Suddenly, they don't seem empty anymore.....Ain't that nice, huh Smile And when you boot DOS2 and you go to Basic and give a 'Files', the Files suddenly ARE visible. And bootable.

Por mars2000you

Enlighted (6221)

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20-12-2003, 01:15

As your case is very hopeless, I send you my disk image of the demo, with DOS 1 and an autoexec.bat. No any problem in NLMSX !!! 8)

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