Amiga??? Atari??? Commodore??

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Por Latok

msx guru (3856)

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14-09-2004, 13:28

I also prefer PSG+SCC above MSX-MUSIC. I like MusicModule AM synthesis though. And I also agree we should use the PSG better. The zx/st/cpc scene shows the way.

And I've heard really great stuff on AMIGA. And with them chips being able to multitask....I still remember the day an AMIGA friend of mine loaded a disk which played the complete 'Brother In Arms' from Dire Straits....Playing the song and loading it from disk at the same time. Well, it couldn't get more real than that.

I like MSX much more as a hobbyist computer, though. Don't get me wrong. But for me, it's a fact you can do great things on Amiga.

Por Latok

msx guru (3856)

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14-09-2004, 13:30

Uhh.....Still, MSX OWNZZZZZ of course Tongue

Por [D-Tail]

Ascended (8255)

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14-09-2004, 14:57

Yeah, and wot about the crack of Disney's Aladdin which contained a Beavis & Butthead sample at the beginning? Big smile

Ah well, I guess Bandwagon did a good job at their PSG samples Tongue
Not to mention NYYRIKKI's PCM sample [that's all folks!] Big smile

Por ro

Scribe (4561)

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15-09-2004, 10:19

Well Atari and Amiga both had superior hardware. 16 bit MC68000 processor for example. not to mention great GFX. Atari also has de infamous PSG (YMxxxx was it?) onboard which was used in oblivous.. man! the tunes! great.

Amiga; also a great machine with lotsa good stuff and possibillities. Why did so many MSX noobs turn to Amiga? well, for the non programmers it was simply a superiour machine. Although the quality of games was guestionable (comparing to any MSX game)...

same goes for the tunes, prolly MSX enjoyed better MUSICIANS.

usabillity is great on MSX. But have ANY of you ever tried coding sumpf'n on Atari or Amiga eh?

all and all the whole homecomputer scene was shoved by the PC generation. . .
what if Atari, Amiga, MSX had continue building greater machines? we'll never know, neither do I care.

Por wolf_

Ambassador_ (9918)

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15-09-2004, 10:52

It's not just musicians .. it's specs .. with 4-channels you're sortof stuck to a certain style.. usually moden/poppy/dance etc. On MSX (FM-Pac) there's a bit more room for larger/'symphonic' pieces .. Think of the intro of DS6 for example..

It goes without saying I'm in favour of this last style ofcourse Smile

Por anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

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15-09-2004, 13:10

But have ANY of you ever tried coding sumpf'n on Atari or Amiga eh?
The CPU alone (68000) gives me headaches!
I don't even want to go into specific hardwares ^^;

Por diabolus

Resident (54)

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17-09-2004, 23:48

is it those specs, that really count??
For non-modern/poppy/dance etc. style, you could listen for example Cannon Fodder, Shadow of the Beast, Star Dust intro, etc. And those are only old games, what about those demos?
Musicians in demo scene can do whatever kinda music they wanna. And they surely have made good reggae, heavy, jazz, symphony etc. on amiga.
It's surely not question about the specs, it is the maker/software/hardware, in that order, that really counts.
There's tons and tons of REALLY good music made with PSG/SID/PAULA. That is the proof of specifications not really counting. It's not those +32 channels which makes me enjoy the music.

And with OctaMED on amiga, you can use 8 channels if you want to, btw.

About that 68000 asm programming, I prefer these 8bit machines. 6510 is hard enough for me. =)

Por POISONIC

Paladin (1012)

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20-09-2004, 13:12

that 8 chanel trick is a cheap trick i puge on amiga bleuegggg ok i liked amiga for awile but that 4 channel sound that they called stereo i realy hated it.

The atari is a diverent story it was realy made for making music take the midi device for an example thats the only good thing from an atari i still having an atari 1040ST for my midi stuff.

But i disagree with wolf aubout that msx isnt good enough as a midi sequencer

Midi is a old standard it works on a 4 bit protocol and i think msx is capable as a midi sequencer but no one has ever made a sequencer exept for bit2 with their SyntheSaurus.

And MSX has Still the best Sound Wink

if you own all the sound cards youre a lucky man!

Por wolf_

Ambassador_ (9918)

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20-09-2004, 14:01

But i disagree with wolf aubout that msx isnt good enough as a midi sequencer

I wasn't talking about the MIDI protocol, but about the GUI that certain MIDI-apps always use. It's simply because the MSX has a slow VDP that you won't see many GUI'ish apps, like cubase-clones etc. Sure, for some Dynamic Publisher orso, the -slower- speed might be sufficient.. but for a music-app I require something fast/intuitive. I don't think a GUI with such a large-scale-app on MSX would please me there..

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Paladin (1012)

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03-10-2004, 23:16

ok roger thatwolf Wink

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