Influenced composing - MSX and the real world

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Por JohnHassink

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13-12-2004, 15:33

For the ones among you playing in a band, or making other non MSX-related music (like techno or something).

Every composer makes use, with or without knowing it, of things heard before.
When you're composing a song, do you notice some influence from MSX music?

I know I do. Even when I compose a song for a heavy metal band I play in, I sometimes think "Shit, this sounds too much like this-or-that game, let's change it."
Not often, but it does happen. I poisoned my mind with MSX music, folks. Smile
No, seriously, I actually learned a lot by listening to and arranging MSX game music.

Subquestion: Does it also work the other way around for you?

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Por [D-Tail]

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13-12-2004, 19:51

I poisoned my mind with MSX music, folks. SmileI just wouldn't say 'poisoned'. Smile

Por wolf_

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13-12-2004, 20:43

a.t.m. my Realms of Adventure (Moonsound/640) music is heavily inspired by actual filmmusic, some PC-games (of which the music itself is inspired by movies again Smile ) and Vangelis. I'm generally not inspired by MSX music, it could be because I don't need to make 3- 6- or 9-channel music.. tho an optional scaled-down FM-Pac version of the RoA music will then be based on 24-channel music Smile There's only a few games that I find interesting, musically speaking. The other games are nice but not groundbreaking orso..

Por snout

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13-12-2004, 20:52

I guess the music I make for MSX is little inspired by the music I usually make or listen to. I have been thinking to do a guitarpop-project based on MSX game songs though, but haven't had the time to actually do something with it Wink

Por Edwin

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13-12-2004, 20:55

So, wolf, do you make remakes of msx game songs because they are something special or to make them something special? Smile

Por wolf_

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13-12-2004, 21:16

uuhm.... I don't remake all music, only music in which I find some element that sounds symphonic to me, something that invites to make it bigger, and that's for sure not every game. For example: Usas, MoG, Metal Gear etc. etc. tho 3-channel have all the elements to create something big out of it. And then I try to make something that keeps the atmosphere/function but sounds waaaaaay bigger.. as in: this is how it had to be when the MSX had the sound-equipment I use today Smile

It isn't limited to Konami, there's some not so common titles here and there, fully unplayable JP RPG's which I once only watched for the intro-demo orso etc. Some o' them still stick'n me head mate..!

Por Edwin

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13-12-2004, 21:25

Go for it! And then send them my way. Wink

Por wolf_

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13-12-2004, 21:30

All in good time .. atm I'm more in the mood for programming and Moonsound music for RoA ..

Por robertwilting

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13-12-2004, 23:03

No influence from my side. But then again I can't think of a single MSX tune with a standing out baseline.

I do know one good example the other way arround. However only MSX related.

IN YS4 (PC ENGINE) you have JDK covering Far Beyond the Sun from Yngwie Malmsteen.

Por RobertVroemisse

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13-12-2004, 23:19

Yes John, it does work the other way round as well. When the musicdisc Twisted Reality got sold I was asked if I listened to metal a lot. without noticing myself I used a lot of metal influence in the (house) music. Especially Slayer some guy thought. AND HE WAS FU***NG RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

Por JohnHassink

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13-12-2004, 23:23

I'm generally not inspired by MSX music, it could be because I don't need to make 3- 6- or 9-channel music..Don't forget about the solid basis any piece of music should have. One could bring any orchestral piece of music down to a 3-polyphone structure. Melody, harmony and baseline, that's what matters. If something sounds big or not, is merely a secondary matter.
Someone could make a 32 channel song which has nothing in it, and vice versa.
Any music could be useful to learn from.

But then again I can't think of a single MSX tune with a standing out baseline. Shocked! Dude, I'm not even gonna start with giving examples. Are you joking or am I just misunderstanding something? Smile

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