FUN-RICE Problem...?

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Por smudge

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16-04-2016, 19:12

Hello,

i'm Edwin from the Netherlands. A couple of weeks ago i dusted of my three MSX computers and started using them again.
The models i have are:

Sony F700P - not modified
Philips NMS8280 - not modified
Yamaha CX5MII - not modified.

I want to use Sony for programming in the C language and sometimes to play a game.

On the internet i bought a Fun-rice PACK, a ide controller with 4GB CF card.
After putting the card in the Sony HitBit and turning the power on it boots like normal. After booting suddenly a character appears after the prompt and then te Sony reboots. It also states sometimes : "System error 96" It boots again and after booting it does not take long and it will reboot again. Even after a day of power off, so no remaining data in memory the same hing happens.

I tried the card also on my Philips MSX2 computer and the same thing happens. I cannot use it with my MSX2 machines.

Only in my MSX1 it seems to function right. But i want to use it on the MSX Sony machine. Has someone experienced this strange behavior on such a IDE card? Maybe the electronics are not functioning well but i don't want to open the cartridge. Or maybe i am doing something wrong?

regards,

Edwin

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Por ericb59

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16-04-2016, 21:29

perhaps... be sure your cartridge slots are clean.

does it have the same error if you boot with the ide cartridge without the cf card adaptator ?

Por smudge

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16-04-2016, 22:03

Without CF card it states master failure and boots into basic.

Maybe the 5volt system of the msx2 is too weak to handle the supply for the cf card. tomorow i will try to use an external powersupply on the connector.

regards,

Edwin

Por Fabf

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16-04-2016, 22:19

Don't use external power supply, CF is already powered by the MSX.
Doing this could destroy the CF, the cartridge or even the MSX !

Por Bastion Rebel

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17-04-2016, 07:33

Hello

system Error 96 ?? with what prog ???
in the ad on ebay there as a mini restriction
128 KB RAM
YAMAHA is not therefore a 64kb enough memory for msxdos2 must be a "boot" for your special MSX1 and spend the FUNRICE in DOS1
by cons for 2 MSX2 it should work without problems

Please Test this

0 CF card is formated and fully MSX2 Prog only is you use with MSX1 work but some prog are not working !!

1 Attention sensitive device ESD to discharging ESD touch with your hand your MSX (metal case) and CF card !!

2 disconnect your adapt CF and boot with only FUNRICE CART !!
FUNRICE must Respond IDE MASTER FAILURE !!
Shut off
Connect ADAPT CF + CF
Switch ON

3 change slot for test (if working cleaning slot after connecting FUNRICE)

4 Re load BIOS file
In disk MSXDOS 1 with MSXDOS.SYS and command.com
Copy this file
Idefload.com
And
45870.DAT on floppy

Boot with “INS” touch ( on floppy )
MSXDOS 1.03....
A:>
Type : A:>idefload 45870.dat
The bios file is loading
Erasing flash bios and copy "new bios"
After reset your MSX without floppy disk

5 Patch boot
If boot normaly i try to fix boot
Copy FIXBOOT.COM to CF card (via floppy)
Type :
A:>FIXBOOT A:
A:>FIXBOOT B:
A:>FIXBOOT C:

6 if working
please note on the listing your application launch ??

7 FUNRICE Card is protected by diode for alim CF adapt
but no problem to use +5V but not necessary

Por ericb59

Paragon (1098)

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17-04-2016, 07:39

There are some IDE Devices ( CF Cards and others) that can be incompatible with the MSX and even with some kind of MSX.
I have a flash Ide device I attached on the ATA-IDE cartridge and cause some stranges behaviours on a Sony MSX Computer but not on a Philips MSX. !
So, I think, first of all try another CF Card or IDE Device.

Por Bastion Rebel

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17-04-2016, 08:04

No Ericb59
i'm try on my Philips 8235/8250/8255/8280 all work
but i'm try on my HB75F sony with "boot code light" becoz some prog is only for MSX2 !!

can be a CF card problem that took a little too much "scanner"

before you have to see if walking map if the CF is the change

Por smudge

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17-04-2016, 08:18

Hello,

thanks for your answers!

Without the CF card it responds with "Master failure" and then boots into basic. Al slots on my msx 2 have the same effect.

I do not have another CF card but i have an ide harddisk. I will try to connect it to the card. Also i will try to follow the steps provided by Bastion.

I let you know what happens.

regards Edwin

Por ericb59

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17-04-2016, 09:05

"Master Failure" error at boot if there is IDE device connected is normal.
What's important is to proove there is no glitches and MSX Behaviour is normal with IDE-ATA cartridge.

What is the software printing "System error 96" ?
can you post a screenshot ?

Por smudge

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17-04-2016, 10:11

The error starts sometimes when drive letters are assigned. The behavior after booting is not always the same.

I have loaded the rom again with idefload. But with the 45870.dat file because before i can acces a file the system hangs or reboots. I used the file FUN250A2.dat.

Then it booted normally but after 1 minute the same thing happens. I have attached a screenshot with the system error 96 and 97. Witch happens right after booting.

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regards Edwin

Por Bastion Rebel

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17-04-2016, 11:12

Ok the funrice card is working !! the CF card ??

to boot without AUTOEXEC.BAT push CLS/HOME at startup to inib startup
you can type MSXDOS2 command now
type command
ren option.bat option.bis (enter)

copy con option.bat (enter)
after type control Z to stop batch

the batch "option.bat" launch MAP info , CD Driver , and VOL A:/B:/.. is optionnal
you can try to reboot and take a pic SVP

try this :
dir b:
dir c:
(d: not applicable FAT16)
if not possible to read B: or C: if CF CARD is broken !! (SCANNER)

this pic is to SONY MSX2 (256koRam 128koVRAM) Ok (driver CD launching not loading)
(PS: your email dont work please contact me for 45870.dat)

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