MSXDev'07 specs - discussion

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Por SLotman

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30-11-2006, 16:50

I dont get why all this hate against MSX2... I dont have GFX9000 or Moonsound, but you guys dont see me trolling around about how GFX9000-only stuff or Moonsound only music are bad... I would just be glad to see new stuff, no matter what the specs are...

I really dont see a problem having a "sub-contest" with MSX2, 2+ or even turbo-R games, I think it would just expand the possibilities Smile

And I really dont understand this "more hardware = less projects, because people get ambicious" - that's a developer's problem if they take the chance of developing something beyond what they can achieve (and I'm not just thinking code-wise, but also on story/gfx/game size)

It's just a matter of proper management, of what can and cannot be done within the time limit...

Por wolf_

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30-11-2006, 16:54

yep ^_^

But the msx2/+/tR is a bit tricky. Just have a look at the current poll to see my point..

Por Kandahar

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30-11-2006, 17:22

Rather than hate against MSX2 (I own an MSX2+) is the fact of insist on putting MSX2 into a contest thought originally for MSX1 developments.

I would be glad as well to see whatever new stuff. That's why I suggest to arrange another contest (I won't be a volunteer for such a thing) for that not included in MSXdev.

And of course proper managemente is required for whatever one wants to program.

c u

Por Samor

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30-11-2006, 18:23

Just stick to msx1/psg/8kb..2MB ROMS/64KB RAM. The rest (scc, fmpac, msx2 colors etc.) is a bonus.


yeah, I think that would be a good idea......

Por madcrow

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13-12-2006, 13:45

Hmm. I never realized that there was such a big "split" in the MSX community. I knew that the Japanese generally ran lower-RAM systems (16KB for MSX1, 64KB for MSX2 and 128KB for 2+) than the Euroecene, but I didn't know that Spain and Brazil had forgotten to upgrade to the MSX 2... In fact I thought that turning MSX 1s into MSX 2s was a popular passtime in Brazil with lots of kits and stuff available.

Por jltursan

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13-12-2006, 18:24

One of the main reasons could be the lack of software for MSX2. Back in time in Spain there was not too many software available for such computers, mainly Konami imported cartridges, very few developers dare to program for MSX2. MSX1 was inmensely popular so, why take the risk?. In Holland, there was Philips, and that's enough, the MSX2 there was a bit more affordable than in Spain and with more media support. There's no other european country with so high MSX2 presence.

Por SLotman

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13-12-2006, 18:49

hmmm.... Brazil did have MSX2, lot's of people had them.

Not everybody had them, true, mostly because official companys never sold them, we just had "upgrade kits" - we took our MSX1 to the stores, and later (one week? I dont remember) they come back as MSX2.

But nowadays most active MSX users in Brazil (90% at least I think), has MSX2 or better. All the rest has MSX1 with 64k RAM or more (all MSX models comercially released in Brazil had 64k of RAM)


Enlighted (6443)

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13-12-2006, 18:57

Let's open a new (multiple) poll :

which HW do you have ?
1) Do you have an msx1 ?
2) Do you have an msx 2 ?
3) Do you have an msx 2+ ?
4) Do you have an msx TR?

which SW do you run ?
a) Do you prefer to have new free games for msx1 ?
b) Do you prefer to have new free games for msx2 ?
c) Do you prefer to have new free games for msx2+ ?
d) Do you prefer to have new free games for msx TR?

which SW do you develop?
I) Would you develop new games for msx1 ?
II) Would you develop new games for msx2 ?
III) Would you develop new games for msx2+ ?
IV) Would you develop new games for msx TR?

Por dvik

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13-12-2006, 19:12

@ARTRAG: Nive poll idea. I guess the first question can have muliple answers. The second two would be nice to have as single answer questions.

Por pitpan

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13-12-2006, 20:13

I say:

As expected Wink

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