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RPG "The Sorrow of Gadhlan' Thur" from Kai Magazine

RPG "The Sorrow of Gadhlan' Thur" from Kai Magazine

por ro en 16-09-2018, 16:51
Tema: Desarrollo
Etiquetas: action rpg, cartridge, digital download, Gadhlan'Thur, Kai Magazine, msx2, pre-order, rpg
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Legend has it that an ancient orc king called Gadlhan'Thur, conquered much of the known world thanks to the help of a powerful magical object. But the power of the object turned against him and ended up losing his tribe and everything he loved ... They say he died alone, drowned in an unbearable sadness.

Since then that object is known as "The Sorrow of Gadhlan 'Thur"

Kai Magazine just announced that pre-orders are now possible for his new MSX2 game "The Sorrow of Gadhlan 'Thur", which is due for release at the turn of the year. No hardware extensions are needed for the game to work. The game comes with PSG and, if present, MSX-Music programmed music.

The game is an Action RPG of exploration and open world where you can find objects and weapons that will give new skills and allow you to explore more areas of the enormous mapping. The villagers will give clues and sell objects, the monsters that populate the province will hunt you as soon as they spot you.

There are many objects and skills to gather, as well as many hidden secrets to uncover. There's a diverse set of skills to master. The game is quick, agile and progress can be saved and loaded with pass codes.

The price during pre-purchase is €9 in digital format and €12 after that. A physical edition comes in the form of a cartridge which will be €39 on pre-order, while €42 on regular sale.
The shipping costs are:
€5 for Spain
€10.80 for Europe
€13.80 for the rest of the world

Those interested in making the pre-purchase can contact Kai Magazine by e-mail: kennethalbero@hotmail.com

Relevant link: A YouTube video showing the first glance of the game.

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Comentarios (33)

Por hamlet

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17-09-2018, 08:47

That looks really nice! Keep on the great work Oscar!

Por journey

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17-09-2018, 09:35

The game looks good and visually seems a (good) mix between Faxanadu/Ys3/Golvellius

Music is provisional?

Because remind me a lot the first stage og Super EDF for Super Famicom Smile

Por La Gaseta Msx

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17-09-2018, 11:52

Congratulations for your great work Kai team!, thanks to make our dreams reality.

Por Kai Magazine

Paragon (1241)

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17-09-2018, 16:56

Thank you, guys!

Por Kai Magazine

Paragon (1241)

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17-09-2018, 17:07

journey wrote:

The game looks good and visually seems a (good) mix between Faxanadu/Ys3/Golvellius

Music is provisional?

Because remind me a lot the first stage og Super EDF for Super Famicom Smile

Hi Journey, thank you.

Regarding the music, do you mean this music?

https://youtu.be/ZOFwh4WJ4O8

What do you feel it is too similar? the baseline? the accords? the melody?
I just listened to it and I found no similarities, but we have some good musicians here and they can correct me if I am wrong.
This song is an fm version of a music I did for the first video of myths and dragons promo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24RckUzT74A

But I never used that song for myths and dragons because John Hassink asked me for the exclusivity of the soundtrack, so I discarted that song and I recycled it for this new game.

Do you ask if the music is provisional because it is too similar and I should change it?

Kind regards:
Oscar

Por PingPong

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17-09-2018, 17:45

One word. Graphics are standing. Especially sprites.
@Kai are you using hw or sw sprites?

Por Kai Magazine

Paragon (1241)

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17-09-2018, 18:35

Hardware sprites. That video shows how the game works on a z80. Software sprites are too slow for that framerate Wink
It is worth mentioning that I spent several days experimenting with the correct OR color combination for the screen 5 palette in order to achieve that many colors in a single character.
It was not easy, I can assure you that.

Por journey

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17-09-2018, 18:41

Kai Magazine wrote:

Hi Journey, thank you.

Regarding the music, do you mean this music?

https://youtu.be/ZOFwh4WJ4O8

What do you feel it is too similar? the baseline? the accords? the melody?
I just listened to it and I found no similarities, but we have some good musicians here and they can correct me if I am wrong.
This song is an fm version of a music I did for the first video of myths and dragons promo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24RckUzT74A

But I never used that song for myths and dragons because John Hassink asked me for the exclusivity of the soundtrack, so I discarted that song and I recycled it for this new game.

Do you ask if the music is provisional because it is too similar and I should change it?

Kind regards:
Oscar

Ciao Oscar,

I mean from 33 sec.
I do not know why, but it reminds me that melody line.

Anyway, not a problem for me, only pure curiosity

I've already preordered the game :)

Por Kai Magazine

Paragon (1241)

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17-09-2018, 18:42

Thank you, Journey Wink

Por PingPong

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17-09-2018, 22:14

Kai Magazine wrote:

Hardware sprites. That video shows how the game works on a z80. Software sprites are too slow for that framerate Wink
It is worth mentioning that I spent several days experimenting with the correct OR color combination for the screen 5 palette in order to achieve that many colors in a single character.
It was not easy, I can assure you that.

Sprite Graphics are stunning, i can assure you ;-)
About the necessity to use hw sprites to let it run on z80 i think it is mainly a VDP blitter issue not z80 unless you use the cpu to do sw sprites instead of vdp. But i think it is crazy.

Por Grauw

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17-09-2018, 23:02

How many sprites per character? All just two?

Sprites are cool Smile.

Por Kai Magazine

Paragon (1241)

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18-09-2018, 10:20

4 sprites per humanoid (16*32 pixels), using 2 sprites for each 16x16 area, 3 colors per line.

Por Kai Magazine

Paragon (1241)

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18-09-2018, 10:35

PingPong wrote:
Kai Magazine wrote:

Hardware sprites. That video shows how the game works on a z80. Software sprites are too slow for that framerate Wink
It is worth mentioning that I spent several days experimenting with the correct OR color combination for the screen 5 palette in order to achieve that many colors in a single character.
It was not easy, I can assure you that.

Sprite Graphics are stunning, i can assure you ;-)
About the necessity to use hw sprites to let it run on z80 i think it is mainly a VDP blitter issue not z80 unless you use the cpu to do sw sprites instead of vdp. But i think it is crazy.

Thank you PingPong Smile

When I say "Software sprites are too slow for that framerate" I mean this:
The frame rate is determined by the cpu time process + gpu time process. It is not always possible to make them work both at the same time. Sometimes when making several consecutive graphic operations, the CPU will just wait. After the graphic operations have finished, the cpu will start working and the gpu will wait.
For example on Life on Mars (2015) all sprites are software sprites. On r800 the game works at twice the frame rate than z80. This is because the r800 reduces the cpu processing time a whole lot, making the frame rate higher.
In short, the problem is the multi-tasking between cpu+gpu. it is not always possible...

Por OeiOeiVogeltje

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19-09-2018, 02:17

finally a game where you can jump...

Por OeiOeiVogeltje

Paragon (1230)

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29-09-2018, 23:44

and uhm
how do you get out new games like that so quickly?

Por DarkSchneider

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07-10-2018, 12:57

The sprites OR operation is nicely used. Surely you miss (like everyone) a good tool for creating sprites in SM2 (Sprite Mode 2) with OR.

Por JohnHassink

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11-12-2018, 04:10

A try-out for the SCC version of the overworld theme. Would like to know your opinion, now I can still change stuff about it. Smile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O26u2mu56-E&feature=youtu.be

Por max_iwamoto

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11-12-2018, 06:42

Any update on when the game will be released?

Por JohnHassink

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11-12-2018, 07:17

January 17th.

Por JohnHassink

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11-12-2018, 07:45

BTW, for the people who are quick to click on things, here is the PSG version of the dungeon theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_pYVh8LcZc
Will be deleted soon so get it while it's hot. ;)

Por journey

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11-12-2018, 07:50

JohnHassink wrote:

A try-out for the SCC version of the overworld theme. Would like to know your opinion, now I can still change stuff about it. Smile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O26u2mu56-E&feature=youtu.be

Fantastic tune!

Please, add the SCC soundtrack in the game!

Por JohnHassink

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11-12-2018, 08:48

Thank you. Smile Yes, the entire soundtrack of the game will support SCC. This is how it will actually sound in the game with SCC (but there are PSG versions, too).

Por ARTRAG

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11-12-2018, 09:40

It will be the first game in turbo basic to use the trilotracker replayer and sfx on 3 channels, all for msx2 with 64kb ram without mappers

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Paragon (1241)

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11-12-2018, 12:47

Thank you to Artrag for his hard work into making this possible Wink
This was supposed to be a secret/surprise and the information given here is wrong:
The game will be delivered with psg and FM support, as the original announcement states.
The SCC support is an unannounced extra which will only work with an external scc. The game cartridge will not include scc chip.
We might do a limited batch with scc included in the cartridge for those interested in it but it will be more expensive since the cartridge itself is more expensive.
Also, while the game works flawlessly on z80 with psg or fm musics, Trilo tracker replayer + the 3 channels psg sound effect replayer consume a huge amount of cpu resources (way more than opl4!) so the game suffers small slow downs with scc on z80, so we might condition the scc usage to turbo machines.
I insist: this is an unannounced feature that we are experimenting on at this very moment. There are no guarantees.
Do not buy the game thinking it will have an internal scc or that it will inconditionally work fine on your MSX. We are just experimenting. Noone was supposed to know about this.

Por ARTRAG

Enlighted (6084)

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11-12-2018, 15:19

Crazy sorry for spoiling the surprise!!!
Anyway external Scc should work just fine.
There is no need for a Scc chip on the cartridge.

Por Kai Magazine

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11-12-2018, 16:27

Nothing to apologyze for, Artrag, once you saw John's post you felt it was public domain and you added some technical data on the work you did, so there is nothing wrong with that.

By the way, the slow downs on z80 are fixed now, so the game will work on z80 and scc (where available).

Por syn

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11-12-2018, 21:57

So for FM you use moonblaster, scc uses trilotracker?

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11-12-2018, 22:45

Yes. As far as I know, the Trilo tracker FM replayer is incomplete.

Por hamlet

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21-12-2018, 21:19

JohnHassink wrote:

January 17th.

It would be great to see some cartridges fore sale in Nijmegen fair!

Por raymond

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23-01-2019, 16:36

Has the game been released?

Por Coyote

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26-01-2019, 10:00

Nope Raymond.
It could not be finished in time. This was the game I wanted to buy at the Meeting.
Maybe for next June or earlier.

Por max_iwamoto

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27-01-2019, 17:11

Any update on when the game will be released?

Por journey

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28-02-2019, 10:37

max_iwamoto wrote:

Any update on when the game will be released?

No news?

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