MSX Blaster by 8bits4ever, does anyone have any experience with this?

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Por sdsnatcher73

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17-10-2018, 21:03

Hi, I am in the market for an OPL4 cart and I am considering the MSX Blaster by 8bits4ever (when it’s available again) and the DalSoRi R2 actually. The DalSoRy won’t output sound through MSX and has more functionality (as in more RAM). But I don’t know if that will be useful to me. MSX Blaster is cheaper (mainly because it’s shipping from Europe). But I can’t find anything on the site from actual users of it. So who has one? And what is your opinion of it? How does it compare to other OPL4 carts (if you have experience with any others of course).

Thanks for any information!

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Por ToriHino

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17-10-2018, 23:06

There's also this one: OPL4 Shockwave 2

Por Hydragon

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17-10-2018, 23:31

sdsnatcher73 wrote:

Hi, I am in the market for an OPL4 cart and I am considering the MSX Blaster by 8bits4ever (when it’s available again) and the DalSoRi R2 actually. The DalSoRy won’t output sound through MSX and has more functionality (as in more RAM). But I don’t know if that will be useful to me. MSX Blaster is cheaper (mainly because it’s shipping from Europe). But I can’t find anything on the site from actual users of it. So who has one? And what is your opinion of it? How does it compare to other OPL4 carts (if you have experience with any others of course).

Thanks for any information!

I have a DalSoRi R2, which is worth every penny!
I stepped aside from brazilian reproductions because of bad experiences, as in harming the computer as a matter of fact!

Por Grauw

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18-10-2018, 00:07

I’m also pretty happy with my DalSoRi R2, a neat piece of hardware which really can be considered a next-gen MoonSound. I’m not using it to its full potential yet (still need to add VGMPlay support for its 4 MB RAM mode), but still already the 2 MB of sample RAM in MoonSound-compatible mode is very nice, and no qualms about the audio quality. Plus the Konami-size board and translucent cartridge look very neat Smile.

My original Sunrise MoonSound is also still functioning quite nicely Big smile. Although (iirc) I did manage to clip the audio where the DalSoRi had no issues with that.

I don’t have bad experiences with any product from any manufacturer, but I think probably the most relevant thing in terms of comparisons of sound cartridges is the audio quality; some have more filtered sounds than others, some too little some too much. Especially with FM-PAC clones I think there are some notable differences. Although you can correct for it with a mixer, and what’s preferred is also pretty subjective.

As for output through the MSX, for me that doesn’t have great value anyway unless you don’t have a mixer; you’ll loose the stereo sound, and I think it may cause more noise on the output? Though maybe that is solved in the MSX Blaster hardware design, I don’t know. I do recall it was quoted as one of the reasons why the original MoonSound didn’t have that.

Por Meits

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17-10-2018, 23:57

Of all the OPL4 cartridges I have, the Wozblaster(clone) I have is by far the lesser of all... Out of the box that is... The problem is that its output is too low which favours noise. It got tweaked to sound just great.
If this version by 8bitsforever has this low volume fixed, you should have a very nice OPL4 cartridge.
I have no clue about the Shockwave opl4 cartridge. By the looks of it, and its earlier versions, they did a solid job using quality components.

In a little while from now I'm going to sell the complete inventory of a power user. There is a Sunrise Moonsound 2.0 among it. I'm not sure how much sampleram is on it.

Dal So Ri out of the box sounds very great. If Moonsound is the bench mark, this one comes close. The volume output is marginally lower than Moonsound, yet the audio sounds a tad less sharp. Very pleasant listening to this Korean hardware. What's even more a +1 for most clones is that they use newer and more modern components than the original Moonsound.

To be honest I can't see any advantage of it having pin 49 connected to lead the audio to the MSX's own audio output. In almost every MSX the audio will be poluted by a lot of noise and mono as well. I cut this line on the majority of my music modules resulting in a cleaner output directly from the cartridge. If I ran into an 8bitsforever unit, cutting that pin off would be the first action taken.

Por Grauw

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18-10-2018, 00:32

I found an old post of mine (btw the FM BLASTER no longer seems to be available?):

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I’ve done some tests comparing the MoonSound with the DalSoRi, the YAC513 has a crispness to the sound but can be difficult to tame, whereas the Philips UDA1330A used in the DalSoRi sounds more subdued but has less trouble playing certain tone combinations. I think in the end it’s a matter of taste.

That’s “difficult to tame” is what I was referring to by clipping the audio on the MoonSound earlier.

Additionally I found these two recordings I made of the same song playing on a MoonSound and a DalSoRi V1, although I can’t find my post on msx.org that probably belonged to these files anymore. But at least it’s indicative of what kind of difference you could expect, I guess.

Meits wrote:

In a little while from now I'm going to sell the complete inventory of a power user. There is a Sunrise Moonsound 2.0 among it. I'm not sure how much sampleram is on it.

Don’t you need another MoonSound yourself Meits? :D

Por Meits

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18-10-2018, 01:01

I'm not sure what the status of EricB's health is and what his plans for the future hold for us. I hope both are positive.
About that yet another Moonsound for me, nah... A fifth would be too much... I do concider 4th slot expander and a 2nd gfx9000 though. Smile

Por FiXato

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18-10-2018, 08:29

Grauw wrote:

Additionally I found these two recordings I made of the same song playing on a MoonSound and a DalSoRi V1, although I can’t find my post on msx.org that probably belonged to these files anymore. But at least it’s indicative of what kind of difference you could expect, I guess.

Maybe a good idea to include those in the OPL4 Wiki article?

Por Nprod

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19-10-2018, 13:26

Which open-hardware OPL4 cart is the best to make these days, is it still the wozblaster?

Por Meits

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19-10-2018, 15:24

Isn't Wozblaster the only open source opl4 cartridge?
But then again, all the other cartridges are own designs, so people can create opl4 cartridges if they want.

Por Nprod

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19-10-2018, 15:56

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Isn't Wozblaster the only open source opl4 cartridge?

That's why i'm asking, after all it has been 6 years since the wozblaster came out and there may have been some new developments.

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