Meits pointed an SD-Mapper that’s clearly a v1, and the AliEx cartridge is a v2. So, no, they’re just not the same.
If so, all the more reason to be even more vigilant because it is indicated v2 even on the PCB.
You mean you have to be vigilant to buy the version you want? If yes, then it's the same as any other cartridge, isn't it?
- MegaFlashROM: You have to check if you're buying the MFR without SCC, MFR with SCC, MFRSCC+, MFRSCC+SD with 1 card slot or MSXSCC+SD with 2 card slots.
- IDE: It might be from many different manufacturers. Some have the power pin for the CF adapter, some don't. The ROM update tool is different for every manufacturer.
- CF: It might be from many different manufacturers. Some have terrible design mistakes that cause the detection of IDE devices to malfunction, specially for the slave device.
And even for the MSX models: You have to be sure you can differentiate between the FS-A1 vs FS-A1mk2 to buy the correct model.
And you pointed two v2s and one v1, so not even the ones you selected are the same between them.
In fact, at the last link, this is the same as the version on Ali express.
Yes, as I said that was the only v2 amongst those you linked. The guy produced a small personal batch of 5 cartridges.
Interesting. What’s the fastest transfer rate can it achieve?
And how quick does it boot to the Nextor prompt?
I don't know. There is an benchmark on page 47 of the manual I have.
Ok. I'll try to find some time to do the benchmarks at the next weekend.
What driver are you using with your Sunrise CF?
Nextor but I can also do it with the original Rom-disk.
Nextor has two different drivers for the IDE/CF interfaces: v0.1.5 and v0.1.7.
Yes, as I said that was the only v2 amongst those you linked. The guy produced a small personal batch of 5 cartridges.
No, this one is also a v2.
https://oldplayers.com.br/wp/computadores/msx/sdmapper-v2/
And, are those based on v1 or v2?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6gqvQc7Kvk
https://www.msx.org/wiki/MetalGear2_SDMMR_1024K
The guy produced a small personal batch of 5 cartridges.
If it is the same as the one sold on Aliexpress, it is not a small personal batch of 5 cartridges.
You mean you have to be vigilant to buy the version you want?
Yes.
Nextor has two different drivers for the IDE/CF interfaces: v0.1.5 and v0.1.7.
How to differentiate the versions? I have been using Nextor's driver for a long time. It has changed several times but I think only the detection of CF cards have been modified except the first version which was not stable. The slave slot never worked. Using this slot even destroys the FAT of both cards. I believe the slave slot support was removed from the latest version of the driver. Unless it's just for C2 which only has one slot.
Yes, as I said that was the only v2 amongst those you linked. The guy produced a small personal batch of 5 cartridges.
No, this one is also a v2.
https://oldplayers.com.br/wp/computadores/msx/sdmapper-v2/
This is a news article about the cartridge, gdx...
The guy produced a small personal batch of 5 cartridges.
If it is the same as the one sold on Aliexpress, it is not a small personal batch of 5 cartridges.
The guy explicitly states that is a small personal batch of 5 cartridges on the first message of that forum...
J'ai assemblé 5 exemplaires de la MSX SD Mapper & megaram 512K V2 (l'Everdrive du MSX)
J'en ai deja vendu une dans mon entourage, et j'en garde une pour moi :gene3: , il en reste "0 SOLDOUT"
J'ai réalisé ces cartouches pour une utilisation personnelle, c'est donc les 3 dernières.
You mean you have to be vigilant to buy the version you want?
Yes.
Then, again, it's exactly the same as happens with the MFRs, IDEs, CFs, Sharksym MMC/SSD etc. You have to check whatever you want to buy to be sure you're buying what you expect. Even with the Moonsound you have to check that, otherwise you might end up with a v1 that is limited to 128KB of RAM and cannot be easily expanded.
Nextor has two different drivers for the IDE/CF interfaces: v0.1.5 and v0.1.7.
How to differentiate the versions? I have been using Nextor's driver for a long time.
The version of the driver is printed just before the IDE master/slave detection.
It has changed several times but I think only the detection of CF cards have been modified except the first version which was not stable. The slave slot never worked. Using this slot even destroys the FAT of both cards.
The slave slot works fine with the v0.1.7 on my IDE interface and a dual CF adapter. With v0.1.5 it didn't.
I experienced file system corruption with 0.1.5 on my C2. I'd really recommend to use 0.1.7.
This is a news article about the cartridge, gdx...
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The version of the driver is printed just before the IDE master/slave detection.
I kown but Nestor often makes changes without changing the version number.
Then, again, it's exactly the same as happens with the MFRs, IDEs, CFs, Sharksym MMC/SSD etc.
I agree for the C2 but I never seen MFR clones and in general those who reproduce the others make several modifications because it has no gerber available, and even the name change.
The guy explicitly states that is a small personal batch of 5 cartridges on the first message of that forum...
That may have been true when he created this thread but nothing prevents him from making others later. Anyway, according the pictures they are the same.
The slave slot works fine with the v0.1.7 on my IDE interface and a dual CF adapter. With v0.1.5 it didn't.
Wrong! It does not work at all with the Sunrise CF. If I insert two CF at the same time the content of the CF inserted in the master slot will be lost.
I experienced file system corruption with 0.1.5 on my C2. I'd really recommend to use 0.1.7.
The C2 doesn't have a slave slot. Your file system corruption was probably caused by something else. Did you have files with long names for example?
This is a news article about the cartridge, gdx...
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What part of "This is a news article about the cartridge" didn't you understand?
The version of the driver is printed just before the IDE master/slave detection.
I kown but Nestor often makes changes without changing the version number.
Then it's the kernel that's changing, not the driver. The relevant part of what I asked was the driver version. What is the driver version that is printed for your interface right now?
Then, again, it's exactly the same as happens with the MFRs, IDEs, CFs, Sharksym MMC/SSD etc.
I agree for the C2 but I never seen MFR clones and in general those who reproduce the others make several modifications because it has no gerber available, and even the name change.
It's not just a matter of clones (and yes, clones of the non-FPGA models exist), but also that people can also buy used cartridges, right?
The guy explicitly states that is a small personal batch of 5 cartridges on the first message of that forum...
That may have been true when he created this thread but nothing prevents him from making others later. Anyway, according the pictures they are the same.
Following this rationale, nothing prevents anyone from making clones of the IDE, CF or MFR cartridges too, right?
The slave slot works fine with the v0.1.7 on my IDE interface and a dual CF adapter. With v0.1.5 it didn't.
Wrong! It does not work at all with the Sunrise CF. If I insert two CF at the same time the content of the CF inserted in the master slot will be lost.
I clearly stated that it works on my IDE interface with a dual CF adapter. Do you mind to explain what exactly are you so strongly claiming to be wrong?
I experienced file system corruption with 0.1.5 on my C2. I'd really recommend to use 0.1.7.
The C2 doesn't have a slave slot. Your file system corruption was probably caused by something else. Did you have files with long names for example?
Piter Punk was the author of the v0.1.5 and he himself stated many times that the driver was still experimental and prone to data corruption...
What is the driver version that is printed for your interface right now?
0.1.7 (I also tried all previous versions)
Wrong! It does not work at all with the Sunrise CF. If I insert two CF at the same time the content of the CF inserted in the master slot will be lost.
I clearly stated that it works on my IDE interface with a dual CF adapter. Do you mind to explain what exactly are you so strongly claiming to be wrong?
I was very clear. When I insert two CF at the same time in my Sunrise CF interface the content of the CF inserted in the master slot is instantly lost from the first boot. (fully corrupted FAT)
This issue occurs since the first driver version that wasn't developed by Piter Punk. I've talked to Nestor about this a couple of times. Anyway, since it works for you with your Sunrise IDE, then the issue is Sunrise CF specific.
Piter Punk was the author of the v0.1.5 and he himself stated many times that the driver was still experimental and prone to data corruption...
It's possible, but it's not related to the problem I'm talking about.
I experienced file system corruption with 0.1.5 on my C2. I'd really recommend to use 0.1.7.
The C2 doesn't have a slave slot. Your file system corruption was probably caused by something else. Did you have files with long names for example?
No, it was completely gone when I switched to 0.1.7. (Why the remark on the slave slot?)
I didn't use long names.
No, it was completely gone when I switched to 0.1.7.
Did I say otherwise?
Then please rephrase your response.