Sunrise GFX9000 ??? How to use ?

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Por Argon

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21-08-2003, 18:50

I found a GFX9000 cartridge with included SCART cable.
I tried using it on my Philips NMS-8250 with a Philips CM8833 monitor.

All I get is a white screen, no text, no nothing Sad

Anybody can tell me if it is broken, or if I need to do something to get it started ???

Thank you.
Kris.

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Por anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

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21-08-2003, 19:19

That's correct behaviour.
A MoonSound doesn't automatically begin playing music either, does it? Tongue

Por Argon

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21-08-2003, 19:59

Well, I don't know Smile
I got the GFX9000 by 'accident'.
I have no idea how it works.

I connected it to my monitor, but I don't even get the MSX-Basic screen.
So I ask you people, who know more about it if this is normal Smile

Kris

Por anonymous

incognito ergo sum (116)

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21-08-2003, 20:19

Peter Burkhard already replied on comp.sys.msx that there's software for download at www.msx.ch
Also, there are tools, demos and other software that support Gfx9000. Don't know of any available for download tho.

Por kanima

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21-08-2003, 20:47

All I get is a white screen, no text, no nothing Sad

I think the GFX9000 functions independantly from the VDP in your MSX. So, you'll need 2 monitors (or 2 tvs or 1 monitor and 1 tv or Wink Connect one monitor to your MSX as you would normally do; this will give you your normal startup screen, MSX BASIC and games etc. Connect the other one to the GFX9000. The GFX9000 will only display something interesting if you load up/use the right software for it and even then it will not /replace/ your MSX's VDP. At least I think you won't be able to play ordinary games over the GFX9000.

However, I'm really not in the know though, unlike probably some other person who's been replying, but doesn't seem to really want to answer your question in a manner that's helpful to you.

Por Thom

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21-08-2003, 20:55

IIRC it is possible to get a superimposed screen, i.e. both the msx vdp and gfx9000 output are visible (though a bit blurred) at the same time.

You have plugged the G9000 scart into your monitor, right? You get a white screen, right? That is because the MSX doesn't use the g9000 by default. Hence you need a peace of software which transports data towards the g9000.

Concluding:
1) download g9000 specific software
2) put it on disc (preferably autoexecutable)
3) plug in g9000
4) start msx

I've got a g9000 myself, but I've NEVER used it because of the lack of software.

Por Thom

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21-08-2003, 20:56

However, I'm really not in the know though, unlike probably some other person who's been replying, but doesn't seem to really want to answer your question in a manner that's helpful to you.

Utterly unfair, his answer was 100% correct.

Por kanima

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21-08-2003, 21:16

Utterly unfair, his answer was 100% correct.

But not really helpful (IMO) and also "A MoonSound doesn't automatically begin playing music either, does it?" sounds utterly snobbish to me. But let us defend him hisself if he feels he needs to.

Por Argon

Paragon (1119)

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21-08-2003, 21:17

However, I'm really not in the know though, unlike probably some other person who's been replying, but doesn't seem to really want to answer your question in a manner that's helpful to you.

Oh well, I don't mind, maybe he has a bad day or something ?
I have those too from time to time Smile

Well, I know now that it needs software to run.
I will check out what's available and try it later Smile

I also received a Zemmix console today Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile
With lots of Zemmix/Zemina cartridge games, I've been updating my games database and website:
http://www.msx.be.tf

Still lots of pics to upload, so see y'all later :)

Kris

Por kanima

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21-08-2003, 21:23

Oh well, I don't mind, maybe he has a bad day or something ?
I have those too from time to time Smile

Me too, but that doesn't mean everybody has to like it.

I also received a Zemmix console today Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile

woooooot Smile enjoy!

Still lots of pics to upload, so see y'all later Smile

Cool, have to check that out later.

Por anonymous

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21-08-2003, 21:34

However, I'm really not in the know though, unlike probably some other person who's been replying, but doesn't seem to really want to answer your question in a manner that's helpful to you.
I'm sorry, are you referring to me?
I believe I gave a correct, helpful answer. Downloading the Gfx9000 software from http://www.msx.ch allows you to control the MSX from the Gfx9000 screen, so no need for dual screens to use it.

But not really helpful (IMO) and also "A MoonSound doesn't automatically begin playing music either, does it?" sounds utterly snobbish to me.
It's a valid analogy, it wasn't meant to sound patronizing or snobbish.

Sometimes I wonder why I even try to be helpful.......

IIRC it is possible to get a superimposed screen, i.e. both the msx vdp and gfx9000 output are visible (though a bit blurred) at the same time.
This is only true for the 1st Gfx9000 version. It's recognizable from the big black box it is in and needs to be connected via a flatcable. If your Gfx9000 is a normal MSX cartridge, it's a v2 or higher which does not support superimposing out of the box.

I had my v1 Gfx9000 upgraded to Video9000 which allows high quality superimposing and video digitization. Still, it's cheaper to get a 2nd monitor or a SCART-switch :)

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