MSX operating systems?

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By slowerisbetter

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06-11-2011, 13:16

Well the definition of OS (above) seems to be that it's a set of programs which form a layer over the hardware and expose an API to the user. So a GUI system can be that as well if it sits between the hardware and the user space. If you have Hardware->GUI->programs then the GUI is part of the OS, if it is Hardware->XXX->GUI->programs then I would not consider the GUI part of the OS, but just a user program.

By Lord_Zett

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06-11-2011, 13:39

gui like philips ease!

By kabish

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06-11-2011, 14:34

CanorOS by Daniel Zorita

By Manuel

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06-11-2011, 14:50

ro: probably not until someone put it in there!

By sd_snatcher

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06-11-2011, 15:49

Shame so little sources are available.

Yes, this is a rule that applies to almost everything else related to the MSX scene. And the consequences are easy to notice: a lot of effort is replicated elsewhere, and a lot of effort is waste when the guy who made that code leaves the scene or just don't have any more interest in continuing the project. Others are not able to continue from the point it stopped. There's other thread about the MGDRV source code that also have this problem.

And I'm not such a great exception to the problem, but I don't think that anyone will be interested on source codes for game patches. OTOH, I plan to release the JoyMega library sources as soon as I can make time to fix some bugs recently reported.

By RetroTechie

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06-11-2011, 16:08

Shame so little sources are available.
Yes, this is a rule that applies to almost everything else related to the MSX scene. And the consequences are easy to notice: a lot of effort is replicated elsewhere, and a lot of effort is waste when the guy who made that code leaves the scene or just don't have any more interest in continuing the project. Others are not able to continue from the point it stopped.

Which for me is a big reason that I don't care much for OS projects where source code isn't available (like SymbOS). And for any software that I consider essential, whether on PC, MSX or elsewhere. If original author walks away (or changes his mind & sells copyrights!) one should at least be able to fix / continue development of what you have so far.

FWIW, I really don't understand why people would work on an OS project for a system like MSX, and not release code (apart from having 'stolen' code somewhere & trying to hide that fact). I mean it's not like you're going to make money from it... Smile2 And for small communities like MSX you need all the help you can get - locking away code doesn't help to bring in contributors...

Even less understandable is contributing code to such a project - you do the effort, and a 3rd party can decide to lock up the underlying code base that's required to let it run? QuestionoO

By slowerisbetter

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06-11-2011, 17:39

What RetroTechie said. It's not like you're going to make money with it, so why not open source? And we are living now in 2011, so put EVERYTHING on github.com from the very second you start your project. There is no downside and if you get bored with it, at least other people can pick it up...

I really need to start collecting sources and stuff them into github, seems a lot of people rather want it to disappear. I mean sd_snatcher; of course people are interested in everything and there is no downside to putting it online. Also you might get contributors... As happens here quite a lot he when discussing Street fighter II for instance.

Also; anyone have access to the email to the guy from Uzix; I find it a total waste the source is not online.

By geijoenr

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06-11-2011, 18:12

I am surprised too about how little source code is available from the MSX community. I find really strange that some people gives binaries, but not sources (well, I find even more strange some people still sells software for MSX).

is there (has there been) any "big" open project source project for MSX anytime? It would be great to have a open msx-dos2 clone or something like that, just like Nextor, but completely open.

By slowerisbetter

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06-11-2011, 18:15

Well if you intent on selling software then yes, you wouldn't be open sourcing it (right away anyway), but most people are not, they are just doing stuff for fun. The reason not open sourcing then is really impossible for me to understand.

By RetroTechie

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06-11-2011, 18:41

is there (has there been) any "big" open project source project for MSX anytime?
C-BIOS? Surely there's more if you look around... And although not official releases (by copyright holders, that is), you can find disassembled sources for many parts of MSX system software.

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