A new MSX

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By Mortimer

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26-12-2019, 19:59

I was investigating a while ago to use an RPi for real-time use, and even in the "Bare metal" mode there were events that you could not control, such as the thermal calibration of the DRAM.

Also, the parallelization and synchronization of tasks is very difficult to achieve with precision of milliseconds and without additional delays. In a FPGA is something that comes "for free".

By elmar_c_fuchs

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01-09-2020, 19:22

Sorry if this is old news, but I missed this update in this discussion:

#346 次世代MSXのCPUは64bit

2020-02-04
次世代MSXを東大で作っている。CPUはZ80、R800、64bitのARMにした。当初32bitのARMであったが、ソフトウェアを担当する人たちから64bitにした方がよいというリクエストがあったので変更した。64bitのARMで動くOSはLinuxである。CとPythonとLISPが使える様になる。詳しくは夏頃。

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#346 CPU of next generation MSX is 64bit

2020-02-04
We are making the next generation MSX at the University of Tokyo. The CPU is Z80, R800, 64bit ARM. Originally it was 32bit ARM, but I changed it because there was a request from people in charge of software to make it 64bit. The OS that runs on 64-bit ARM is Linux. You can use C, Python and LISP. Details are around summer.

By Bodhi1969

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01-09-2020, 21:59

Quote:

2020-02-04
We are making the next generation MSX at the University of Tokyo. The CPU is Z80, R800, 64bit ARM. Originally it was 32bit ARM, but I changed it because there was a request from people in charge of software to make it 64bit. The OS that runs on 64-bit ARM is Linux. You can use C, Python and LISP. Details are around summer.

Is there any progress with this project?

By elmar_c_fuchs

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28-11-2020, 08:41

#444 次世代MSXの可能性を考える

2020-11-24
次世代MSXのスペックを考えている。スペックを考えるのと同時に誰がユーザーになるのかも考えている。

世の中には7つのジャイアントがいる。パソコン界ではWindowsとMac。スーパーゲーム界ではXBoxとPlayStationとNintendo。スマホではAndroidとiPhone。後発のなにかが出てこの7つと戦って勝つということができるのであろうか。答えはできないというところか。王者がひとつしかいない分野はコンピューターマニアの分野だ。そこに今大成功しているのはRasberryPiである。この分野でRasberryPiと共存しながら存在を主張し、固めていくしかMSXの未来はないような気がする。ユーザーに指示されていない30年前の8bitパソコンを2020年の現在に復活させ売っていくなんて狂気の沙汰だ。

ということを考えながら現代の7大コンピューターの隙間を毎日考えている。

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# 444 Thinking about the possibilities of next-generation MSX

2020-11-24
I am thinking about the specifications of the next-generation MSX. At the same time as thinking about the specifications, we are also thinking about who will be the user.

There are seven giants in the world. Windows and Mac in the personal computer world. In the super game world, XBox, PlayStation and Nintendo. Android and iPhone on smartphones. Is it possible that something late will come out and fight against these seven to win? I can't answer. The field with only one champion is the field of computer enthusiasts. The Raspberry Pi is now very successful there. I feel that the future of MSX is the only way to insist on its existence while coexisting with the Raspberry Pi in this field and solidify it. It is crazy to revive and sell an 8-bit personal computer 30 years ago that was not instructed by the user as of 2020.

While thinking about that, I am thinking about the gaps between the seven modern computers every day.

By Pac

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28-11-2020, 16:42

Will Nishi be able to persuade us with this new MSX? I hope so, being an official product probably MSX enthusiasts will buy it but I don't know what to expect... Question

By Nautilus

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28-11-2020, 16:48

I believe the magic about a MSX computer was that it could be used creatively by all kinds of users: programmers, gamers, students, enthusiasts. A new MSX needs to honor that: be simple and fun. Think about it: we are still using and creating things on machines with NO bios/software updates for decades. Of course, there are improvements, new tools, etc, but you can just turn on a MSX and start programming or playing right away. A new MSX needs to be a well done piece of hardware and software, it doesn't matter if it is 8bit or 128bit, it needs to be ready to use, ready to create, where the limitations are part of the fun. ✌

By elmar_c_fuchs

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26-12-2020, 00:22

458 次世代MSXのコンセプト

2020-12-15
次世代MSXに向けてコンセプトのまとめを進めている。一番の特徴はメディアマシンであるということ。二番目はIoTのコントローラーとしての機能を持つということ。三番目はマルチCPU時代に対応するパーソナルスーパーコンピュータに拡張することができること。以上の3点であります。

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458 Next Generation MSX Concept

2020-12-15
We are working on a summary of the concept for the next generation MSX. The best feature is that it is a media machine. The second is that it has a function as an IoT controller. Third, it can be extended to personal supercomputers that support the multi-CPU era. These are the above three points.

By SwissPanasonic

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26-09-2021, 10:52

do you think that we can hope for this MSX machine imagined by Mr. Nishi in 2022? Rather a real machine (like MSXVR but more official) or a simple card for PC? Very exciting this project of Mr. Nishi. It would also be necessary to officially group together CDs or other old games or software and new ones. The only pity point is that it will not be by a Japanese brand.

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