PT3 Replayer learning

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By DrWh0

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20-09-2017, 22:20

Hi, everyone

Anyone knows where to find .pt3 files or a respository/packs of music in this format?

I am toying with this replayer and I am unable to find music files for testing (I only have 2 pt3 files very shorts) and I am not a musician for making my own files.

If exists a converter from mgs/mus or similar would be great too!

Thanks in advance for your time guys Wink

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By ARTRAG

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20-09-2017, 23:17

Start from here
https://bulba.untergrund.net/vortex_e.htm

Use Vortex Tracker II to convert any PT1, PT2, PT3, STC, STP, SQT, ASC, PSC, PSM, FLS, GTR, FTC, FXM, AY file to PT3

By NYYRIKKI

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21-09-2017, 07:17

>5000 songs here.. (but not all of them are .PT3)

By santiontanon

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21-09-2017, 16:01

This brings up a question. What is people usually doing these days for music in their games? is everyone using the PT3 replayer? I use my own custom music format and player that I built, but it's extremely limited. So, I have been considering other options, but I'm not sure what other people do.

By DrWh0

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22-09-2017, 10:07

Thank you very much for your prompt responses!

Very appreciated Smile

By DrWh0

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22-09-2017, 10:20

WYZ Player is also used out there, but I think that IMHO the community lacks of an universal tool well documented and easy to use as music replayer to add in their games using assembler, basic and C with a decent library of songs, in other words a simple API that you can use in multiple code languages well optimized and free open source.

In resume:

One of the main problems in community is the dispersed state of documentation.

Maybe would be a great idea making a wikipedia style center of well structured resources, a txt or non searchable PDF is not a easy to use as source of documentation.

Also I think that opening sources like some authors do in their msx-dev releases and good documentation would be a great help for people wishing to make new things.

By NYYRIKKI

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22-09-2017, 11:09

In FM-world the MoonBlaster is pretty standard tool for making music although it is not the best, but for PSG there is no such "this is THE popular one"-player... Today PT3 is quite a popular solution, but it originates from ZX-spectrum world and it might be a bit big & heavy in case you only need something simple. Arkos tracker is another tool that has been used by some MSX musicians as well and can be seen used ie. in recent Lieves!Tuore demos. Program package should include player for MSX. See if these suit to your needs.

DrWh0 wrote:

One of the main problems in community is the dispersed state of documentation.

Maybe would be a great idea making a wikipedia style center of well structured resources, a txt or non searchable PDF is not a easy to use as source of documentation.

The msx.org programming Wiki has been a try to go to this direction how ever as it is relatively new and only few people make updates actively there is still stuff missing, but usually if there is no information directly there is at least some link to the documentation.

By Metalion

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22-09-2017, 12:59

santiontanon wrote:

What is people usually doing these days for music in their games? is everyone using the PT3 replayer? I use my own custom music format and player that I built, but it's extremely limited.

I did the same thing as you. Developed my own PSG 3-channel replayer. It was way simplier than I expected, and not so limited (although, as I'm no musician, I'm certainly missing some advanced features).

By ARTRAG

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22-09-2017, 14:02

Vertex tracker II and its pt3 player are solid, complete and well documented. A C version is also available.
Trilo Tracker and its replayer are another option any you have 3 versions of them, psg only, psg+scc and fm

Both options integrate sfx with aysfx editor and player by shiru/z80st

By [WYZ]

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22-09-2017, 14:17

@DrWh0:
I commenced WYZPlayer as tool for home use over 2005, as other coders here, and I decided to share. It is more than 12 years old and after all this time working together with Augusto only a few people have been really interested in it. There is enough online support and examples of what can you code/compose.
But the first thing to determine is the scope of your work. If you are looking for something with enough power to create good PSG music that fits on 16-32kb, this can be a good choice. Universal tools can be finally too much complicated but you decide. Arkos and Vortex are also excellent cross development tools with potentials and lacks.

By enribar

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23-09-2017, 12:58

My problem is: I like PT3 and other formats, but I cannot find players for languages other than MSX-Basic.
I'm mainly interested in players for Turbo Pascal.

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