Comparing MSX-1 to other 8-bit computers

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By alexworp3

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17-12-2008, 18:24

I can live with your comment hrothgar, but..... nes sound sucked even my watch made better noices
and offcource commodore had an advantage over the msx, but an msx is more of an allround machine while the rest is mad for either this OR that and not all. Thats why msx is the best by far.

By alexworp3

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17-12-2008, 18:29

btw i dont think nes was around in the early 80s.
a lot of msx games were later ported to nes like for example vampire killer and goonies

By hap

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17-12-2008, 19:42

btw i dont think nes was around in the early 80s.tsk, look it up Tongue
a lot of msx games were later ported to nes like for example vampire killer and gooniesI don't know about Goonies (both 1986), but you're wrong about Castlevania.

By dhau

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17-12-2008, 19:44

NES was released in 1985, and became big around 1987. So it's more fair to compare it to MSX2.

Famicom (identical to NES except no CIC chip) was released in 1983, but unlike MSX1 it wasn't available outside Japan.

By hap

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17-12-2008, 19:53

Why do you think it's fair to exclude it from this hardware comparison just because it wasn't available outside Japan at the time? oO

By pitpan

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18-12-2008, 09:37

I've got one question for you: do you consider the V9938 a 8-bit or a 16-bit video processor? I know that it only uses a maximum colour depth of 8 bits (256 colours), but most of the instructions executed by this processor are longer than one byte. But it is the *main* difference between an MSX and an MSX2.

Does this change the idea of "8-bit computer"? For example, a Sega Genesis/MegaDrive has a Z80 for sound, just like NEO·GEO IIRC, but of course they are Motorola 68000 based, making thus 16-bit machines.

By Poltergeist

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18-12-2008, 15:14

And then, oth: A TI-99/4 and 99/4a have a 16bit processor, but uses the same videochip as the MSX. Also, everything was connected through an 8-bit bus. Can we use it in this comparison also, especially if you consider that these systems are older than MSX?

By alexworp3

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18-12-2008, 17:53

what I mean is that the msx(1 or 2or whatever) is a true allrounder. it isnt super in one thing but in overall performance it is way ahead of for example a c64 or a nes which is a game console and not a home computer

By MäSäXi

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19-12-2008, 11:07

And then, oth: A TI-99/4 and 99/4a have a 16bit processor, but uses the same videochip as the MSX. Also, everything was connected through an 8-bit bus. Can we use it in this comparison also, especially if you consider that these systems are older than MSX?

I count computers like that as 8-bit. Smile

By pitpan

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19-12-2008, 12:06

And what about the Sinclair QL? It has a 68008 CPU and was launched in 1984. Really retro thing.

Of course, it is time for a what-if. What if MSX2 were produced using its VDP but with a 680XX CPU? It would have beaten Atari ST for sure, and such a beast could almost compete with Amiga.

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