Good evening, I am very new to the MSX scene and it's pleasure to meet all of you

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By blues3rd

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13-04-2018, 04:55

Good evening how is everyone doing? The past couple of months I been wanting to get back in touch with my gaming past. I recently restored and modded a damaged Gameboy Advance. It was a very special gift to me and boy did that feel good bring that back to life! Well it had me thinking about trying to find other older game consoles to restore or mod. Well my hunt took me to some interest places where I had found console I didn't know existed. So making a long story short after researching about Sharp Twin Famicom on Ebay, I saw a MSX computer on related search. Only things I knew about the MSX was it had the superior version of Castlevania and Metal Gear. So curiosity brings me here and as a newcomer I wanted to take baby steps but also wanted know the best possible route for someone who interested in quality gaming on Msx but also want to dive into possible modding or game making projects

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By Parn

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13-04-2018, 19:13

Welcome! I hope you can find the MSX experience fun and fulfilling!

The MSX is a quirky machine: it was first conceived with what could arguably be called outdated technology, but quickly evolved in its own, particular way. The first models were similar in design to consoles like the Colecovision and the Sega SC-1000, albeit with some interesting personal computing features, like the slot architecture. The huge majority of MSX software was made for the MSX1, but it's also where you won't see as much unique stuff, despite a good showing by Konami and other video game publishers.

The MSX2 is where things start to become really interesting. It's a very capable machine for its time, and as the MSX1 before it, you have almost all of its power available for tinkering from the included BASIC interpreter. You don't even need a disk drive, although I would recommend some form of storage. This makes it very friendly and easy to learn, at least for its time. Despite not having nearly as much software as the MSX1, it has much more quality stuff, and some pretty impressive games to boot, like the aforementioned Castlevania and Metal Gear (and Aleste and Space Manbow and SD Snatcher and Ys and so on).

Nowadays it's not difficult to get your hands on a MSX2-compatible machine, which I would recommend you. Then you should get some kind of flash storage (floppy disks are available but I wouldn't recommend them). One of the best cartridges available is the MegaFlashROM SCC+SD. It is a very complete solution, with all these features:

  • 512kB memory mapper (in some models, it is recommended so you won't need to worry about memory-hungry programs)
  • Konami SCC+ sound chip implementation (it's not the original Konami sound chip, but it is virtually indistinguishable, and it enables you to listen to the most advanced Konami soundtracks and also run some software that uses it)
  • MicroSD card reader (it's the easiest, safest way to store files on a MSX and trade files with the PC)
  • 8MB of onboard flash RAM for cartridge emulation (this is not used for storage, with this you can run .ROMs directly, easily and without worries)

As soon as you get your paws on an MSX2 with the MFRSCC+SD, you are pretty much ready to go. Of course you can do much more, but as you said, baby steps. You are already on the best possible route. Wink

By eimaster

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13-04-2018, 23:44

Welcome to the amazing world of MSX.
I recommend that you get an MSXturboR. It is compatible with older MSX1, MSX2, & MSX2+ but its more powerful wnd has its own games whuch are more robust.

By JohnHassink

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14-04-2018, 06:13

@ blues3rd: Welcome! Smile I hope you enjoy being a part of this community, and that you'll find a nice MSX machine that fulfills all your desires. I would recommend that you aim for a bargain on either an MSX2+ machine or a beefed up MSX2 (meaning - double-sided drive, expanded RAM, optional enhanced video chip and built in FM).
And as already mentioned, you can go a long way with the MegaFlashROM.

@ eimaster: To be honest, I don't know of much games, apart from "Illusion City" for instance, that would warrant getting a Turbo R. Or it's that some scene games and turbo fixes of older games make good use of the R800, but that's all.

By blues3rd

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14-04-2018, 09:22

I was eyeing a Sony MSX2+ HB F1XDJ and Panasonic MSX2+ FS-A1WX. I was interest Turbo R one found one that was expensive unless know you where I can find a good deal one. I seen some people do interesting stuff with the Raspberry Pi

By rderooy

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14-04-2018, 11:17

There is very little software that makes use of the TurboR. Your probably better getting a MSX2 or 2+. If all your really looking is to play Vampire Killer and Metal Gear a MSX2 is more then enough.

Depending on where you live, take into account that MSX2+ and TurboR systems were only sold in Japan, which means NTSC video and 100V power supplies, which can be a hassle to deal with.

By Parn

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14-04-2018, 11:27

@blues3d: If you can find an MSX2+ for a good price, sure, go for it, they are very complete machines. Those two models you mentioned already come with MSX-Music, which is a sound expansion used by many MSX2 games. The Panasonic is a bit easier to mod because its motherboard is less fragile. Where do you live, by the way?

By blues3rd

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14-04-2018, 18:31

@Parn Live in the USA, if I do ended getting one would I have to use an universal adapter for voltage issue?

By rderooy

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14-04-2018, 19:00

blues3rd wrote:

@Parn Live in the USA, if I do ended getting one would I have to use an universal adapter for voltage issue?

Japanese models are meant to run at 100V, while the US uses 110V. It will work, but it is recommended to either change the power supply (if it is external, and uses a common connector type), or use a step-down converter if internal. The reason for this is primarily to prolong the life of the system as your running it slightly out of spec.

By Parn

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16-04-2018, 04:11

@blues3d: As @rderooy said, you should use some kind of voltage converter or modify the power supply. Japanese models are rated for 100V and since USA is officially 120V (probably around 115V at your home, which is typical), this can be dangerous in the long run. You should also use some kind of stabiliser or line filter.

By FiXato

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16-04-2018, 16:30

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