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By Manuel

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16-05-2014, 09:48

The monitor may have been repairable by Bas...?

By Grauw

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16-05-2014, 10:34

Brought the monitor with me to the Nijmegen fair… Bas said it was no good Smile. Broken transformer or something, not worth repairing.

I bought the Samsung LCD cause if I want to hook up my original MSX-es, I’d have to use the living rooom TV which is inconvenient, or an old Philips monitor but that’s bulky, small and CRT Smile.

I’d actually have preferred to use one of my Dell U2312HM monitors (one is connected to the One Chip MSX), as there’s not really much space for another monitor on my desk, but yeah… they don’t have RGB input. (If anyone has any experience if those can be made to work on the MSX RGB signal… I’d be happy to hear about it.)

By syn

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16-05-2014, 12:03

i got a composite to VGA convertor a few years back and uit worked pretty good for my ps2.

I am pretty sure these exists for scart to vga as well.

By Huey

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16-05-2014, 12:58

You can get a great used Samsung Syncmaster with SCART and VGA for 30 euros. Probably cheaper than any, good, VGA converter

By luppie

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16-05-2014, 13:22

I'm using this converter to use my MSX's on my Dell Monitor. (Not sure if your Monitor also has HDMI or Displayport)
This converter also upscales the signal to 1028i and accepts 50Hz & 60Hz signals. It has a seperate sound output, so it's easy to hook it up to an external amplefier.

By Grauw

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16-05-2014, 13:35

@Huey I got a Syncmaster with SCART already, it’s more of a matter of desk space and aesthetics Smile.

@luppie Yeah I saw those, how would you rate the display quality compared to connecting an MSX to an LCD TV with SCART?

To be honest I was hoping for a passive unpowered solution, supposedly some LCD monitors can accept RGB if you split the sync signal, but it’s doubtful whether it would work and turns out it also needs power for the IC to split the signal.

By luppie

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16-05-2014, 14:47

Since my monitor has no Scart I have tested it on my Philips HD TV (46")

MSX Turbo-R RGB->Scart Cable:

MSX Turbo-R RGB->Scart Cable->Converter:

I think that the image from the converter is better then without it.

By Grauw

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16-05-2014, 15:57

Oh yes, that converter’s image is pretty good! Thanks for posting the comparison! Smile

Regarding the first picture, I had to change a lot of settings on my TV to make it look better… all the built-in “image improvement” algorithms actually made it much worse. It had a similar effect to what you see there too until I turned down the sharpening filter to 0.

And even after I disabled everything that I could find, it still does something weird when things move, probably to do with deinterlacing of some kind, or maybe just motion-based smoothing, but when the movement stops it goes back to pixely and that looks quite odd.

So given the good image quality, and space saving, and that I still can’t get the TV to behave quite right, I think I might just get one of those converter boxes in stead.

By msd

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16-05-2014, 16:07

You mean that the external converter is better than the internal converter of that tv?

By luppie

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16-05-2014, 16:24

Yep, looks like it Big smile

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