Is it me or do those guys a review on the most powerful 8 bit computer and are unaware of the facts?

By edoz

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12-04-2018, 18:01

Okay, maybe it is because i like MSX a lot but i get the feeling they do not get is, right?

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By Grauw

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12-04-2018, 19:10

Commenting on blips and bloops while the SCC is playing in the background… Crying

By valrond

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18-04-2018, 11:52

What a couple of clowns. They have no freaking idea of what they are talking about. They are like most of the media of the time, completely biased against the MSX, and judging the system for the "popularity" and the horrible Spectrum ports we had to suffer.

By RetroTechie

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18-04-2018, 17:03

Ugh, so much misinformation... Sad At least when you do a review like this in 2018, read the Wikipedia article first or something. Naming it a Pioneer PX-7 review, and then mostly treating it as a general MSX review using a very non-typical MSX as example. And if doing a general MSX review, I could forgive if people ignore MSX2+ and Turbo R, but (looking back from today) should at least include MSX2. Quite a few of those where sold both in & outside Japan.

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They (MSX) weren't that popular in Europe

Maybe not as popular as C64 or ZX Spectrum (never mind CPC). But still quite popular. MSX2's were rather expensive with their built-in floppy drives etc. But at least in the Netherlands, MSX1's were seen a lot around the time. Probably Spain & a few other European countries as well (okay, Germany was a Commodore stronghold iirc Wink ). And not even mention Philips as one of the companies...pff.

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Underwhelming graphics when it came out in '85 or '86

Ehm, MSX came out in '83 I believe? Competing mostly with C64, ZX Spectrum & Amstrad CPC. With which it was quite competitive capabilities-wise. Maybe this PX-7 came out later (Wiki says '84?), but probably it would have been marketed more as a video-overlay / subtitling machine rather than a home computer. In '86 (or even '85?) there was the MSX2, with one of the most capable graphics of any 8-bit system around the time (or any 8-bitter, period). Not to mention that 1983...1986 was like centuries given how fast the homecomputer market evolved @ the time.

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MSX standard designed by Microsoft

Nah, that's giving MS too much credit. I can't imagine that so many companies would have joined in if Microsoft had set the standard on its own. Regardless if Nishi was working for MS Japan at the time. "Japanese industry effort" (with Nishi taking a lead) would much better describe things I'd say. Note that I don't mean to talk down the Microsoft influence; that's history & I'm okay with that.

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20 minutes tape load times

Ehm no, more like 3-5 minutes for your average MSX tape. Roughly on par with ZX Spectrum 48K titles. And even on MSX there were some turbo loaders for tape.

Cartridge slot in the front, expansion slot in the back. Ehm no, that's 2 regular MSX cartridge slots there.

Slow boot times... what, like 3 seconds for an MSX1 (either cartridge or into BASIC) not quick enough?

And complain about 1-button joysticks when reviewing a game that 'wants' a 2-button joystick. Even I could afford an Arcade Turbo back then lol. Smile2

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