MSX Mirrors - preventing strokes in the MSX web network

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By slowerisbetter

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05-10-2011, 10:06

Hi,

I made a simple site http://gomsx.net => which is not really about the site, well it is, once I finished a big project for a client (I need to pay to buy ALL 8280's in the world from something :) I will start writing articles etc. But for now, I'm trying to secure all MSX information on the web. I see sites rapidly disappearing as people end their hobbies or their spouses don't allow it anymore :) and want to prevent that information gone for ever. This happened a lot already; a lot of resources disappeared and cannot really be found anymore. It would be great if MSX.org would open up such a service, but as that's currently depending on external links as well, a lot of links die over time and it's cannot be found anymore.

The site doesn't show it, but on the server (which has 3 TB raid 5 free) I mirrored quite a bit of information already. My goal is to have everything mirrored and allow others to annotate and mirror as well.

I don't know how to handle 'illegal' things yet though; I find it a real shame that games / applications etc disappear as well, but I cannot put those online in a mirror obviously. Anyone have any experience with that? It should be solvable as I can already not find a lot of stuff I used to work with on the MSX like my own BBS software (written in Pascal), my own demos which were all over all Dutch BBSs, but gone from the world, while they could be found online around 2000 but stupidly enough I didn't download because I thought ; the internet is forever :)

Anyway; if anyone has videos, magazines or sites to store forever, please tell me, i'll mirror them and put a link in the site to the local file and the original location (if any). If there is old information which was available on a site but now is gone, it will appear on something like http://gomsx.net/archive/www.thesite.com/ => this is not done/working yet, but there are already sites on the server which will look like that. Unlike archive.org , I will take care *all* images, videos, css and downloads work.

I will soon put up a page how to mirror me from Linux so others can do the same. It'll include the entire site and everything in it's directories. I am already mirroring the big MSX FTP mirrors, so if it's already on those, it's safe at least on one more node on the web.

Some info: I have been a profitable hoster for about 15 years now and my machines have been in the same location more or less since then, I don't plan to move anything or stop what i'm doing. Having said that; I am for open distribution; if I walk under a bus I want to see all information safe, so I will allow anyone to mirror everything at any time (without abuse ofcourse).

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By ARTRAG

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05-10-2011, 20:52

Great idea! A lot of stuff is already gone forever.
I would like to save MSX Assembly Page http://map.grauw.nl/ and Jannone's page http://msx.jannone.org/ with its web applications

By retrocanada76

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05-10-2011, 21:30

Who's going to guarantee that your website won't fade away too ???

By ant0niutti

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05-10-2011, 21:30

By cklayman

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05-10-2011, 21:47

Well, hopefully somebody else will create yet another site by then!

By slowerisbetter

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05-10-2011, 21:48

No one, that's why I tell everyone to mirror me openly. I would love for anyone to download my site as ZIP, I'll make a Torrent of it every week where anyone can download it totally and it will be FTP/HTTP mirror-able.

So IF my sites drops, more people will have everything.

This was the first I mirrored;

http://www.msxarchive.nl/pub/msx/

Actually Hansotten was the main reason I started did ; the fact that the MSX info disappeared there was thoroughly annoying and frustrating for me. And the MSX archive mirror gave me the idea, but I would like complete sites, not only the binaries.

I would like other people to do the same. It's not like there is any big money or anything involved, so sharing is caring here. I know most do that already ofcourse.

Thing is that MSX information including all binaries, even most videos, will only take up a few GBs. If you get a server at OVH.com, the cheapest one has more bandwidth and disk you'll ever use for MSX, so why not just mirror everything all the time?

By Sd-Snatcher

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05-10-2011, 22:07

Perhaps something can be recovered from : http://www.archive.org/

By slowerisbetter

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05-10-2011, 22:24

Archive is a great tool, but it's 'spider' is not very good; it loses a lot of information, stylesheets and mostly all 'binaries' (besides images). Most sites in archive.org are really broken; if they are really good, I wouldn't have to do this myself Smile

By Manuel

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05-10-2011, 22:53

I found back some MSX binaries using archive.org...

Maybe people can also mention here what exactly is lost, because other people may have downloaded it and could provide it.

By slowerisbetter

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05-10-2011, 22:58

Yes, that's surely a good plan, but they should put it somewhere then, I would like that somewhere to be where everyone benefits Smile

I'll got recheck archive anyway.

But I have it almost daily, that I find some interesting thread here and that almost none of the links are working. For instance, yesterday I found an interesting article which brought me here;

http://www.symbos.de/studio.htm

and mostly everything there is broken and that studio gone. If there would be a good mirroring base for saving stuff like that or if someone has that tool here for instance and he would be able to upload it to a central archive so everyone can mirror/download/benefit, the world would definitely be a better place.

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