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By sunrise

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21-01-2004, 22:26

Location is one , but grauw already asked me that also. I prefer also another location, but that doesnot mean I wouldnot go
That MSX is dead or not is not the issue I believe.
Some mention the costs for travelling in connection with visitors they see and as said forSunrise no doubt. And if this standholders with doubt hesitate you will find the hesitation to go to every fair.
Face it MRC isnot sure to go Tilburg. All this hesitation leads to negativism also for potential visitors
In all this there is a keyrole for the organizers !
As said an extra fair with international character( I mean inviting Japanese people and also spanish e.g. ) would be nice.
Although I appreciate your initiative Zett I wonder if Almelo could be that place !

By anonymous

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21-01-2004, 22:37

Bussum has always had international visitors..
A few years ago there was Matra from spain.. In 2003 the MSX Association from japan visited Bussum. And I think I'm missing some Smile

Also this location has huge advantages... Movie room, live internet connection, etc...

By Grauw

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21-01-2004, 22:48

It's very simple. If people want the Bussum fair to stop because it is financially not feasible anymore, or because of a resulting drop in visitors, it's their choice not to come. But IMHO I don't think there is the luxury to be picky.

It is hard to find a big location for an affordable price, so this will probably be the place were Bussum will be held for a while, also because I don't feel like going through the hassle of finding a new location while I think the current one is quite ok for its purposes. I will try to arrange for usage of the big hall this year, but I 1. don't know if it can be arranged, and 2. don't know the amount of extra costs it will involve. At the least it will surely make things more expensive, and as everything also fits without using it, it might be somewhat of a waste. Especially knowing that this year I cut it quite closely...

Travelling costs is quite a nonsens argument if you ask me. Of all the fairs, the Bussum fair is located most in the center of the Netherlands and therefore easiest reached for everyone. Oss and Tilburg are both located quite closely to eachother in the southern parts of the Netherlands, this is nice for some people but for some others it is far from an ideal situation.

Anyways, I don't want to hear another negative word about Bussum Smile. Unless it's feasible and constructive criticism/feedback about how things might be improved, ofcourse ^_^.

~Grauw

p.s. Frankly, I prefer the Bussum location over the Oss location. I like a little daylight.

By sunrise

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21-01-2004, 23:10

Grauw that isnot my point , but I try to be a kind of messenger of what I heard.
But we have to deal with it, unfortunately.
And for Sunrise it is oke , donot get me wrong. But if those people does it you have a negativism to all fairs coming also , that is what we have to stop.

By Grauw

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21-01-2004, 23:37

Sunrise, I don't blame you, heheh... don't blame the messenger, they say, eh? Smile It's just that, I cannot do much about it. If that is what people want, it is their decision to come or no. But, I think in the end they will come. None of the Bussum fairs had a lack of participants so far, so considering that I don't see much reason to be bleak about it.

~Grauw

By Bart

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21-01-2004, 23:43


Face it MRC isnot sure to go Tilburg...

We'll be there. Don't worry. And we've never publically exposed any doubts about that.

By sunrise

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21-01-2004, 23:54

I have heard that you would come as a visitor , right , not publicly but nevertheless a doubt !
And replied to this conversation because I feel that it goes wrong if it must be a discussion do I go or not.

By Bart

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22-01-2004, 00:10

I don't really understand what you're saying. But the discussion was never about going to Tilburg or not, it was about believing in CGV being able to organize a succesful MSX fair or not. We are going, ofcourse we are. No one can afford to miss out on any "major" MSX meeting nowadays. It's not like we have them every week.
But we, the MRC, do not plan to organize stuff anymore at Tilburg. The CGV doesn't know anything about the current MSX scene, so why should we put a lot of effort into something that has completely disconnected from its origin? The scene is not kept alive by Tilburg, but Tilburg is being kept alive by the scene. And that my friends, is totally up side down, inside out...

By sunrise

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22-01-2004, 06:53

I don't really understand what you're saying. But the discussion was never about going to Tilburg or not, it was about believing in CGV being able to organize a succesful MSX fair or not. We are going, ofcourse we are.

Hmm , that is an internal affair inside MRC , but I can proof that !
And my discussion isnot going to tilburg , bussum but simply the fear that hesitating to visit a fair lead to the end of all fairs

By msxgamesbox

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22-01-2004, 09:34

and why not do it in Barcelona or so? Would be more exotic and surely more fun than Almelo...
If you want to bring an international connotation to the fair, why should it always be in Holland?

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