Policenauts, Snatcher, SD-Snatcher and MG series. Timeline, character and story matches

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By Sander

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04-07-2003, 13:33

I´m trying to make a valid timeline for the Snatcher series and how this matches with Meryl´s appearance in MG Solid. I´m also trying to find out where the stories of the games mentioned meet each other.

Also, I´m trying to make a list of all the characters to see if some reappear in some other Konami games. If you can help solving the problems or complete the list, please join the discussion.

First of all Metal Gear / The Snatcher series and Policenauts all take place in the same universe.

Snatcher and SD Snatcher use a character that´s called "Metal Gear MKII". It´s a helpfull little robot Gillian uses.

According to Konami, Policenauts is a prequel to Snatcher. So that story took place before Snatcher.

Policenauts has one character, Meryl Silverburgh who appeared later in Metal Gear Solid.
We all know that SD-Snatcher took place after Snatcher, SD-Snatcher also uses most of the Snatcher Characters.

Here´s a quote from the UK Policenauts (http://www.hexdidnt.clara.net/policenauts/faq/index.htm) page:

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My only source of confusion and doubt is the timescale: Policenauts is set in 2042, but aren't the Metal Gear games set in the here-and-now? Or in the very near future..? If Meryl's 24 years old in Policenauts, she was born in 2018. This would have to mean that Metal Gear Solid is set sometime shortly before 2038. Following this timeline, by the time of MGS2, she must already be working on Beyond Coast. The strange thing about this is that it means Solid Snake must be the oldest sneaker in the business - likely to be in his 60s or 70s, since the earlier Metal Gear games were set in the 1990s.
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Hmm, this doesn´t help me much.
Any takers here?

Here are most of the characters I could found in the games, maybe someone can help me extend this list, hopefully with some more characters from the Metal Gear Solid series, or any other games that have connections with Metal Gear or the Snatcher series.

Here´s the current character list:

characters

SD-Snatcher

Gillian Seed
Metal Gear MkII
Jamie Lorraine
Randam Hajile
Benson Cunningham (Mr. C)
Harry Benson
Mika Slayton
Geoff
Robin (medical droid)
Jean Jack Gibson

Snatcher

Gillian Seed
Jamie Seed
Mika Slayton
Metal Gear MkII
Harry Benson
Randam Hajile
Benson Cunningham
Jean Jack Gibson
Katrina Gibson
Napoleon
Elijah Modnar
Chin Shu Oh
Freddy and Lisa Nielsen
Isabella Velvet
Ivan Rodriguez

Policenauts (prequel to Snatcher)

Jonathan Ingram
Ed Brown
Tony Redwood
Gatse Becker
Joseph Sadaoki Tokugawa
Salvatore Toscanini
Victor Jurgens
Karen Hojyo
Lorraine Hojyo
Kenzo Hojyo
Meryl Silverburgh (appeared later in Metal Gear Solid)
Dave Forrest
Kris Goldwin
Marc Brown
Ana Brown

Sources:
http://www.jjau.8m.com/kremlin/history.html
http://www.mgs3.net
http://www.msxnet.org/

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By snout

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04-07-2003, 17:29

Well one of the plots of SD(Snatcher) is that Gilian and Jamie discover that they have been frozen for 50 years. Perhaps something similar happened to Meryl? Smile

By Grauw

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04-07-2003, 17:43

characters

SD-Snatcher

Gillian Seed
Metal Gear MkII
Jamie Lorraine
Randam Hajile
Benson Cunningham (Mr. C)
Harry Benson
Mika Slayton
Geoff
Robin (medical droid)
Jean Jack Gibson

Ofcourse Elijah Madnar (not Modnar Smile), Katrina Gibson, Napoleon and Isabella Velvet (I heard she is of much more importance in Snatcher) also make appearances in SD Snatcher... Why didn't you list them??

~Grauw

By MrRudi

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04-07-2003, 19:12

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Metal Gear
Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake
Metal Gear Solid
Metal Gear Solid 2
Policenauts
Snatcher
SD-Snatcher

would be the most conclusive timeline...how the hell Meryl ended up in 2042 without getting that much older is up to someone else to come up with. She looks older in Policenauts than in MGS, so she aged somewhat, but not 30-40 years Smile

By Bart

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04-07-2003, 22:44

Damn. I just played the games. Never wondered about any mixed storylines whatsoever Tongue Interesting though Tongue

By BiFi

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05-07-2003, 09:34

There may be some fact in what snout said about Meryl being in 'cold sleep' like Gilian and Jamie were in SD-Snatcher. But let's see what I've dug up from both the Snatcher and Metal Gear games.

The best link in the Metal Gear story and (SD-)Snatcher is Petrovich Madnar. In both games he's the robologist that was involved in creating the 'evil thing' you need to destory in order to complete the game. In Solid Snake it seems Petrovich started experimenting the Snatcher idea on Big Boss. George Kessler found info about it when you battle Big Boss in Solid Snake clearly linking Snatcher to Metal Gear.

The game of the Snatcher story takes place in 2042, but it started somewhere around late 80's, early 90's, when in a parallel project of the 'Frankenstein Project' the deadly virus Lucifer Alpha was developed. It was released in 1991 causing a huge massacre killing a large part of Europe and Asia.

The story of Solid Snake starts in 1990 when Dr. Kio Marv invented a micro-organism Oilix to refine crude oil in high-quality fuel. Unless Zanzibar Land is quite near Moscow, I don't know how Petrovich can be in 2 places at the same time. The Snatcher project started around that time too, though it's possible for Big Boss having Snatcher technology as these time lines are quite identical. That might be a pretty clear link between the Snatcher and Metal Gear story since that part of the time line comes quite close.

For the Meryl in Policenauts and MGS I'd need to find info about at least Policenauts. When I have something I'll post it here of course.

By snout

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05-07-2003, 10:28

Zanzibar land is real and is near Afghanistan. IIRC the country is also known as Tanzania Smile

BTW.. the Ninja (Grey Fox) in MGS.... isn't he a Snatcher, too?

By BiFi

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05-07-2003, 10:49

Then it's very much possible for Petrovich to be in those two places by plane or something.

About Grey Fox: I'm not sure about that. I'd need to play that part of MGS again to get the story behind it. For what I do remember it's an exo-skeleton with stealth capabilities.

By Latok

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05-07-2003, 10:53

In 1999, I spent 3 weeks on Zanzibar (holiday). It is an island near the Tanzania coast. Close to Madagascar as well.... But Afghanistan?!?! Tongue

By BiFi

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05-07-2003, 10:58

In that case, I retract the first paragraph of my previous post... Smile

By snout

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05-07-2003, 12:19

I got the afghanistan part from the introdemo/manual of Metal Gear 2.

So Zanzibar != Zanzibarland? Smile

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