same game on NES and MSX, the best version?

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By laurentdz

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26-10-2010, 21:33

I noticed that some exist on both NES and MSX like
SPELKUNDER
STAR FORCE
ASTRO ROBO SANSA
which version is better?
is a system always better than the other one or does it depend which game?

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By Manuel

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26-10-2010, 23:41

Some games are quite different, like Metal Gear Smile

By JohnHassink

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27-10-2010, 01:17

There's a lot. Just to name some of them; Castlevania, Contra, Zanac, 1942, Legend of Kage, Nuts 'n' Milk, Romancia...

And indeed, it depends.
Regarding stats, NES is somewhat in between MSX and MSX2, and scrolls easier & more often all together.

Metal Gear is actually a huge difference, as manuel already said.

Hardcore Gaming 101 has good comparisons.
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/alpha.htm

Some examples:

Dragon Slayer IV
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/draslefamily/draslefamily.htm

Eggerland
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/eggerland/eggerland.htm

Higemaru
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/higemaru/higemaru.htm

Ikari Warriors
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/ikari/ikari.htm

Legend of Kage
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/legendofkage/legendofkage.htm

By spl

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27-10-2010, 08:21

Some old MSX 1 games are more playable on NES due the scroll.

By pitpan

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27-10-2010, 14:26

NES is better than MSX(1) in every possible spec, although sound comparison would be tricky: NES has analogic sound, whereas MSX uses the nice-but-limited PSG. If you add FM-PAC or SCC, MSX sound beats the NES easily. Ok, the MSX(1) has more RAM, but that's all. And I prefer the Z80 rather than the 6502, but that's a matter of personal tastes.

By JohnHassink

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27-10-2010, 14:31

If a game has both a NES and an MSX2 version, like the Ys series for example, you can usually just skip the NES counterpart.

Exceptions are games as Contra (especially the fan translated Japanese version!!!) and Vampire Killer/Castlevania, since it's quite different (and easier) and it's fun to have it scrolling for once. Wink

And I prefer the MSX PSG sound too, like pitpan. Smile

By JohnHassink

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27-10-2010, 21:34

Super Bomberman Special, also a good example of how it looks slightly better on NES.

By SLotman

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28-10-2010, 03:10

I agree with most, in general NES beats MSX1, but regarding MSX2/2+, then it's fair game - and usually MSX2 games have better graphics.

By Akiguchi

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29-03-2012, 22:47

Could these very fast parallax scrolling platformers be done on MSX2(+) like Battletoads, Kirby's Adventure etc.? How in earth have the developers achieved something like these in not so very good machine overall?

By Huey

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30-03-2012, 10:00

Could these very fast parallax scrolling platformers be done on MSX2(+) like Battletoads, Kirby's Adventure etc.? How in earth have the developers achieved something like these in not so very good machine overall?

NES is tilebased + faster nametable access + real scroll registers + easier sprite (no 512 byte colortable) handling.
gfx wise the NES is something special. It's quite a puzzle to design the gfx.

The only real strong point of the NES was the nintendo marketing strategy Wink

Maze of galious is also available on both systems. But like Metal Gear the NES version is bad.

By Meits

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30-03-2012, 14:24

Ehm... I think our MoG sucks rather hard compared to NES.

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