smallest , lighter msx ever ?

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By Leo

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06-11-2009, 08:01

hi all,

I am looking for a small msx , ideally with keyboard as silent as possible, and very light.
for the moment i have a sony msx2 hb9 : it is nice since it has 128kb ram for dos2 and
no useless & heavy FD ( i run from sd )

Good Reasons for that :
I plan to use it in my living room for mp3 replay and other stuff i dont need huge config.
i noticed my turboR keyboard is so noisy that it disturb my wife , and since i am living
in the mountains i cant receive fm radio , msx + mp3 i can have a ready to hear system :
no super long boot + fan noise of pc , no screen like laptops, of course i could setup an
ipod+ dock ===> nay not enough "geek" ...
and i just want an excuse for having an msx in thhe middle of my living rooms !
one chip msx is not 'vintage' to me , apart from being an kind of overkill ...
i still have my IR joystick i could use it as remote controller.

Which one ?
I remember philips made vg8010 with "gum" keyboard , is it ?
it has 16 or 32kb ram right ?
I remember also a red yaschica when i was kid : so stylish !
I could keep my hb9 and replace the power unit with a lighter one.
Suggestions ?

Cool

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By Lord_Zett

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06-11-2009, 09:20

hmm the philips 8010 is small. bad keyboard no rubber. Ext. Powersuply. Small memory. Yaschica realy nice msx only one slot. I prever hb55 not small but a nice maschine or a hb 75 best msx design ever. There are small japan msxes like casio mx 101

By RobertVroemisse

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06-11-2009, 10:26

OCM?

By Metalion

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06-11-2009, 11:01

Casio made very small MSXs with gum keyboard : http://www.faq.msxnet.org/hardware.html#Casio (look at the MX-10, for example, approx 2 roms in width). They are probably the smallest of them all ..

BTW, if you are selling your HB-9, I am interested :P

By Leo

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06-11-2009, 11:40

hb9 are rare that is why i overpaid mine (60euros) the same price as my hb700 !

i see a yaschica for 55 euros : it is a bit overpriced , and very used , i will never
see one like when i was kid , brand new shining

hb75 ---> so heavy ! sony design of course ! only HB 501 is heavier (in MSX1 series )

I have seen the hb 10D sony , with the 2 slot on the top : i prefer this instead of
one on the top , and one on the rear , but i guess it is rare also ..

By Leo

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06-11-2009, 11:42

whoa the casio in red shines :
http://www.msxarchive.nl/pub/msx/photos/hardware/Casio_MX-10_red.jpg
B-)

and the joystick , really vintage , they have recycled a shoe casing ???LOL!

this one look smaller but too redish :
http://www.msxarchive.nl/pub/msx/photos/hardware/Casio_PV-16.jpg

By st1mpy

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06-11-2009, 12:10

Why does it need to be light? Or just small?
Out of the machines I have/had I thought FS-A1F was very light and relatively small (compared to my heavy CF-2700), but if you don't need a floppy drive then FS-A1 or A1mkII might be light? I don't like the keyboards on Panasonic MSX2 machines though (I have the FS-A1F, WX, ST and all have kind of cheap feel to the keyboard. Older National MSX machines like CF-2700 had better proper keyboard.) May be Sony ones have a better keyboard? I only know from using my hb-f700 so may be the keyboards on those HB-F1s are as bad as Panasonics? Casio PV series are nice and small but I thought it was difficult to type.

By Leo

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06-11-2009, 14:53

i have panas of the FS A1 series : keyoard sounds like oxydated.
sony are more silent .

light i have to put it on my knees since my sofa is 3m from my TV,
also if my wife does house cleaning and wants to remove dust underneath
it must not be heavy : my flat is not big i have to think to everything !

By Metalion

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06-11-2009, 15:11

whoa the casio in red shines :
http://www.msxarchive.nl/pub/msx/photos/hardware/Casio_MX-10_red.jpg
...
this one look smaller but too redish :
http://www.msxarchive.nl/pub/msx/photos/hardware/Casio_PV-16.jpg

Leo, please read that note in the msx hardware list for Casio :

Note: most computers (PV-7, KB-7, PV-16, KB-10 and MX-10) were available in black and red

I seem to remember a past discussion on this forum (or another) concerning the smallest MSX ever, and we concluded that it was Casio that did indeed offer the smallest ones.

By Leo

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06-11-2009, 19:18

yes i read the note , i understand that black models exist also in red.

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